On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 04:30:29PM -0600, Alexander Perlis wrote: > On 02/25/2013 02:39 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >There isn't just one USB keyboard driver; there are many. > > I see. Since my keyboard works in BIOS and GRUB, I suppose this > means the driver is present in those places, or they are using some > legacy user input approach that wouldn't be appropriate for the > rescue shell? The BIOS keyboard support code cannot be used by protected-mode operating systems such as Linux and Windows.
> >Now maybe we should include the right driver for whatever you had > >plugged in during installation. > > That seems reasonable. > > >But what if you don't have a > >keyboard plugged in? What if you plug a different model of keyboard > >in, that needs a specialised driver? > > A valid concern, but in analogy to plugging in a different model > keyboard, one could install say an add-on video card to use in place > of built-in video. Either way, that's changing the hardware, so a > targeted build may legitimately fail. But my keyboard was present at > time of install, so one would expect it to work. Yes, I understand this. Unfortunately this is still going to randomly go wrong if you upgrade the kernel (or any other package that contributes to the initramfs) without a keyboard plugged in. (I don't know what kind of computer you are installing on, but this would be entirely normal for a server.) > >This is why 'generic' is usually the right answer. > > Good to know. That was the default, but the associated debconf > explanatory text warned that a generic build might be too large to > boot, which tempted the experiment with changing the value. > > If keyboard support can't be improved in time for the Debian 7.0 > release, could at least the debconf explanatory text include "(Note: > initramfs includes a rescue shell for boot failures. The targeted > build doesn't include any USB keyboard drivers.)" ? I agree the question should be reworded. The size is only likely to be a problem on machines with very limited storage or using some old boot loaders. Perhaps we should also rename 'targetted' to 'what-could-possibly-go-wrong'... Ben. -- Ben Hutchings We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking. - Albert Camus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kernel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130225225437.gm9...@decadent.org.uk