On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 19:44 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 03:16:15AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Most new PCs have an Intel or AMD 64-bit processor, and
> > popcon.debian.org shows amd64 numbers almost matching i386.
>
> > So in wheezy I would like to see:
> > 1. Default architecture (top of the list for installation media/manual)
> > being amd64 ('64-bit PC').
> > 2. Users of the amd64 kernel flavour on i386 encouraged to add amd64 as
> > a secondary architecture (debconf note?).
>
> My biggest concern with this is the same that prevented Ubuntu from
> switching to amd64 as a default for 12.04 - namely, that even though almost
> all new hardware coming out would benefit from a 64-bit OS, there's a
> sizeable fraction of users for whom a 64-bit CD would be nothing more than a
> coaster.I certainly don't propose to have any pages where amd64 is the only option. But where we have lists of multiple architectures, I would like to see '64-bit PC' first. Quite a few such lists sorted alphabetically by Debian architecture name, which means that 'amd64' comes first. However, 'amd64' confuses many people, and sorting by descriptive name puts '32-bit PC' first. > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-April/035088.html > > Now perhaps it's easier for Debian to switch this default than it is for > Ubuntu, since Debian's choice of default arch doesn't have quite the same > "all or nothing" impact on pressed CDs and the like. But IMHO it's better > for our users to choose a default that's safe, at the cost of some users not > getting the most out of their hardware if they use the default. Actually, the default Debian installation medium - in so far as it's linked from the front of www.debian.org - is an amd64/i386 netinst image, which encourages use of amd64 while still being 'safe'. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings All extremists should be taken out and shot.
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