Package: linux-2.6 Version: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch1 Last September Matt Domsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> reported a problem where, due to the difference in the way the 2.4 and 2.6 kernels walk the PCI bus, on some systems drivers (mainly NIC drivers) were discovering and naming devices in different orders from 2.4 to 2.6. The problem, potential solutions, and proposed patch are at
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdif f;h=6b4b78fed47e7380dfe9280b154e8b9bfcd4c86c The patch changes the kernel pci sorting order to breadth-first for systems that are known to have their chassis ports(and documentation/remote management) labeled in that order. It does this by matching DMI strings for the systems. Matt Domsch later provided another two patches adding additional systems to the list http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdif f;h=f52383d395178afde66d049e176bb2c59a8c941a;hp=691cd0c2ee2d4d6dff652627fca1 b2d4f1377d58 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdif f;h=f7a9dae7c41580761e7f6de1d508c010b1b44993 Here's a minor related patch http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h= 2b290da053608692ea206507d993b70c39d2cdea These patches were not in the 2.6.18 kernel that shipped with etch, but they are in the newer 2.6 kernels in lenny and sid. For the 17 different system types covered by these patches, people installing etch (or older 2.6 kernels) will have their NICs potentially discovered in a different order than 2.4 kernels in sarge and 2.6 kernels in lenny and sid. There are a few different cases: 1) People fresh installing etch on these systems will be confused that the linux ordering doesn't match the vendor chassis/documentation/remote management labels. 2) People upgrading from 2.4 kernels (like in sarge) to etch will be confused when their NICs are reordered. If possible something should be added to the etch errata about this. 3) People upgrading from etch kernels to newer 2.6 kernels in lenny/sid will be confused when their NICs swap back and now suddenly match the chassis/docs/remote management labels. Something will need to be added to the lenny release notes about this. 4) People upgrading from sarge 2.4 kernels directly to lenny/sid 2.6 kernels won't have a problem. But I'm not sure if that's a supported upgrade path, I think the recommendation is upgrading via etch. On frustrating thing is that the more people "X" that install broken etch on these systems, the more that A) have to deal with the confusion of having things bacwards and B) will have things changed the other direction when they upgrade to lenny. It is tempting to think about trying to include these patches in a stable kernel update to try and minimize X, but for the people that have already installed broken etch on these system "Y", they would be changed with a stable kernel update which is probably even more shocking. Because the systems affected are fairly new, I am guessing that X >> Y, but I'm not sure if that's enough to justify a stable kernel update. I guess the stable kernel release managers can decide that. I have access to several of the systems on the list and ran into this bug when installing etch on them, the results are sort of interesting: Proliant bl460c: two internal nics, swapped NIC1=eth1 NIC2=eth0 Proliant bl465c: two internal nics, not swapped (routing was such that depth-first and breadth-first produced the same result) NIC1=eth0 NIC2=eth1 Proliant bl480c: four internal nics, pairs swapped NIC1=eth2 NIC2=eth3 NIC3=eth0 NIC4=eth1 I put "lspci -tvnn" output for the above at http://people.debian.org/~taggart/tmp/pci-ordering/ I have booted newer lenny/sid kernels on the above machines and confirmed that the patches fix the ordering. I'm willing to test other potential fixes if needed. I am filing this bug against a specific version of linux-2.6, but it affects all older 2.6 kernels and all newer 2.6 kernels up to the point the above patches made it into a debian kernel (the first patch was in upstream 2.6.19 at least). Thanks, -- Matt Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]