On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:42, Alex Nordstrom wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:03, Derek Broughton wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 17:22, Alex Nordstrom wrote: > > > > > > The options you want are in the Control Center, under KDE > > > Components->Session Manager. > > > > Uh-uh.... It has an option to _exclude_ an application from session > > management, but there is no way to tell it I want to _start_ a > > specific application. I could just add it to the auto-start menu, > > but I don't _always_ want it to start. > > Any program not explicitly excluded should consequently be included, > provided "On Login" is set to anything other than "Start with an empty > session". It doesn't appear to me that non-KDE programs would be > excluded (at least GTK programs appear to be remembered).
Only programs that _do_ session management are remembered. So I need some kind of wrapper that will execute the non-session-managed application. I can just make my menu entry "run in terminal" but that leaves me with an ugly uxterm window that I don't want to have to see. > > > Once "On Login" is set to "Restore manually saved session" in the > > > aforementioned Control Center view, a "Save Session" option will > > > appear in the K menu. > > > > Ah. That isn't remotely explained in the associated help. There's > > an implication that the Save Session option should always be there. > > That would hardly make sense were the session management not set up to > use saved sessions. Regardless, the help says that it's on the menu, and I already knew it wasn't. It still makes much _more_ sense if the help mentioned that it's only there if you ask to restore a manually saved session. > As I understand it, the only one saved is the last session saved. That > is, what you saw when you last clicked "Save Session" is what you > (should) get. Not much use, then. > > Isn't this behavior exactly what > > you would get with: On Login Restore Session: yes/no > > On Logout Save Session: yes/no > > I'm not seeing those options. Perhaps you're using a different KDE > version? That was a hypothetical.. > > except that you would have to logout to effect the "Save Session"? > > I believe the whole idea of the "Restore manually saved session" option > would be that you shouldn't have to log out just to save the session. imo, it isn't very intuitive as it is. Using my hypothetical options, I think it would be more obvious. I really can't see much value in _not_ having to log out just to save the session, when you can't _use_ the session until you log in. > It appears that what you want is "Restore previous session", though, > since you don't always want the program in question started. No, what I really wanted was a way to restore the session that I had before I messed up and closed the Konqueror window with 15 tabs. What I usually do is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and log in again - getting the session I saved at last logout. It works, and is probably as simple a solution as I'm really going to get, as the odds that I would have actually saved a "good" session more recently are slim. -- derek
