And, where exactly in the Debian package system database web info pages can this info be found?
I started with http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and did a search on keyword 'kde', no searching on subwords, any distro. ===== That gave: Debian package search results Release Package (size) unstable kde 4:2.2.18 (6.8k) http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/kde.html The K Desktop Environment Responses 1-1 shown, out of total of 1. ===== http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/kde.html shows: Package: kde 4:2.2.18 The K Desktop Environment A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, koffice, and kdeutils. Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other KDE based packages. Does not contain depends for Toys, Games, or Development packages. Other packages related to kde: ... ... View the list of files in kde http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&; word=kde&version=unstable Check for bug reports about kde http://bugs.debian.org/kde Source Code: [dsc] [meta-kde_2.2.18.tar.gz] Ivan E. Moore II is responsible for this Debian package. ===== Link http://bugs.debian.org/kde actually pulls up page http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=kde Which is for a package kde, not the metapackage, because it says that at the 4th sentence of that page. ========================================================================= Debian Bug report logs: package kde Maintainer for kde is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan E. Moore II). You may want to refer to the following packages that are part of the same source: anti-aliasing-howto, kde-devel, kde-extras, kde-games. You might like to refer to the kde package page, or to the source package meta-kde's bug page. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=meta-kde&repeatmerged=yes Important bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #130688: kde: fonts in kde2.2.2 look very ugly, if i try to use iso8859-15-support (euro-support) Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Schöchlin); 10 days old. #131834: kde: Problems with accented characters Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Normal bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #123466: kde depends on x-display-manager? Package: kde; Reported by: John R.Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: wontfix; 54 days old. #124000: kde: Problems with accented characters Package: kde; Reported by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 51 days old. #128333: kdm doesn't appear as x-window-manager alternative Package: kde; Reported by: Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 26 days old. #129006: kde has unmet dependency - kpackage Package: kde; Reported by: John Habermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 21 days old. Normal bugs - resolved (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #112137: kde: fonts cannot be chosen in kde apps (kpresent/kword etc) charset problem Package: kde; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tags: unreproducible; Done: Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. (Closed Bugs are archived 28 days after the last related message is received.) Debian bug tracking system administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Last modified: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:14:22 UTC ========================================================================= 1) What is package kde? I've heard of kde-base, and the 'kde' metapackage, but not a 'regular' package called 'kde'. 2) Is a bug of level 'important' able to keep a package out of W? Looking at the above mentioned kde metapackage page we find http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=meta-kde&repeatmerged=yes ========================================================================= Debian Bug report logs: source meta-kde Maintainer for source package meta-kde is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan E. Moore II). You may want to refer to the following individual bug pages: anti-aliasing-howto, kde, kde-devel, kde-extras, kde-games, meta-kde. Important bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #130688: kde: fonts in kde2.2.2 look very ugly, if i try to use iso8859-15-support (euro-support) Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Schöchlin); 10 days old. #131834: kde: Problems with accented characters Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Normal bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #123466: kde depends on x-display-manager? Package: kde; Reported by: John R.Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: wontfix; 54 days old. #124000: kde: Problems with accented characters Package: kde; Reported by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 51 days old. #128333: kdm doesn't appear as x-window-manager alternative Package: kde; Reported by: Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 26 days old. #129006: kde has unmet dependency - kpackage Package: kde; Reported by: John Habermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 21 days old. Wishlist items - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #128350: anti-aliasing-howto: Package name doesn't match description Package: anti-aliasing-howto; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 26 days old. #128354: anti-aliasing-howto: Doesn't have any GTK information. Package: anti-aliasing-howto; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 26 days old. Normal bugs - resolved (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #112137: kde: fonts cannot be chosen in kde apps (kpresent/kword etc) charset problem Package: kde; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tags: unreproducible; Done: Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. (Closed Bugs are archived 28 days after the last related message is received.) Debian bug tracking system administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Last modified: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:15:40 UTC ========================================================================= So now we've found the kde metapackage info, and the most important bug is 'important'. Is _that_ what is keeping the kde metapackage out of Woody? ===== Searching down from http://http.us.debian.org [and this can be screwed up, I think. Sometimes it works, sometines it doesn't, cause that url is multi-homed to different archives. The exact path to the file depends on which archive you get. :( ] Anyway, if you get the _real_ debian archive, not a mirror, and go down to http://http.us.debian.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/ then look in the 'Packages' file - Warning - 6 MB file size! (DL the .gz version - 1.6 MB) http://http.us.debian.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages you will see the kde metapackage info: ========================================================================= Package: kde Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 48 Maintainer: Ivan E. Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Source: meta-kde Version: 4:2.2.18 Depends: kdelibs3, libarts | libarts-alsa | libarts-bin, libkmid | libkmid-alsa | libkmid-bin, kdebase | kdebase3, kdebase-audiolibs | kdebase3-audiolibs, kdebase-libs | kdebase3-libs, libkonq3 | libkonq4, konqueror | konqueror3, kate | kate3, konsole | konsole3, kdebase-doc | kdebase3-doc, kscreensaver | kscreensaver3, kdewallpapers | kdewallpapers3, kuser, ksysv, kcron, kpackage, secpolicy, kghostview, kview, kmail, korn, korganizer, ark, kab, karm, kcalc, kcharselect, kdepasswd, kdf, kedit, kfind, khexedit, kjots, knotes, kpm, kpaint, kiconedit, kfract, ksnapshot, kruler, kdict, kdepim-libs, kdm | x-display-manager, kit, knode, ksirc, koffice, knewsticker, ktimer, kcoloredit Suggests: aktion, kde-i18n, kde-games, kde-extras, kde-devel, anti-aliasing-howto, kdessh, artsbuilder | artsbuilder3, kmix | kmix3, kscd | kscd3, noatun | noatun3, libarts-mpeglib | libarts3-mpeglib Filename: pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde_2.2.18_all.deb Size: 6930 MD5sum: 66e44cbbb570566be78c096ce568df3e Description: The K Desktop Environment A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, koffice, and kdeutils. Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other KDE based packages. . Does not contain depends for Toys, Games, or Development packages. Task: desktop ========================================================================= Now going to ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ and looking up the metapackage kde, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m we find listed: meta-kde directory 12/22/01 9:41 pm And in that direcotory, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/meta-kde we find a bunch of .deb files all dated 12/17/01 So, those files are all old enough to have qualified for the 2 weeks with no bugs to get into Woody. Specifically, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde_2.2.18_all.deb is > 2 weeks old, and it itself (ie, not looking at bugs in the packages this metapackage contains) has at most bugs of level of 'important'. It takes a bug more severe than 'important' to keep a package out of Woody, right? [Can you give me a URL for where the description of what is required for a package to get from S > W?] Wrong? Does that mean an ugly font and problems with accented fonts is keeping this very useful metapackage out of Woody? If so, that seems an awfully small problem holding up a package with major benefits to installation efficiency, at least. That is _very_ bad, if true. So, what, exaxtly, needs to be done to get the kde metapackage into Woody? ????? Thanks :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
