Hi Markus, Le 29/01/2019 à 19:00, Markus Koschany a écrit :
> I will attend FOSDEM 19 in Brussels this weekend (03.02.2019, 12:40 > local time) and give a lightning talk (15 min) about our heroics. > > https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/debian_java/ Thanks a lot for holding that talk. I won't be able to attend by I can make some suggestions. > Naturally there is not enough time to explain everything in detail but > it should be adequate to put our message across. Here is your chance. > What do you consider important or what would you like other people from > the community to know? You could maybe summarize the upcoming Java related changes in Buster. I started thinking about a blog post on this topic, the freeze is the good time to publish it. Some items worth mentioning: - the transition to OpenJDK 11 and the massive effort involved (more than 400 package updates the last time I counted) - the state of the build tools. Ant and Maven are up to date, Gradle is stuck at the last pre-Kotlin version. SBT still being worked on. - the state of the JVM languages: Groovy 2.14, Scala 2.11.12 (2.12 requires SBT), Clojure 1.9. Kotlin is wanted but difficult to bootstrap. - the state of the IDEs: Eclipse is gone (lack of maintainers), Netbeans 10 - on the application servers side: Jetty 9.4 and Tomcat 9, fully up to date, and now with systemd integration. - the reproducibility rate is now around 85% (Stretch was around 75%). > I would like to reuse some of the scripts that we used for our last blog > post in 2016 [1] to fetch some packaging statistics. Are those scripts > still available? Otherwise I intend to use UDD a lot. I have a script that compares the packages between two releases but I haven't published it yet. I'll run it and post the result for the stretch/testing differences (it doesn't addresses the maintainer/bug counts though). > What specific OpenJDK changes caused the most grief? - New layout of the JDK installation - Removal of tools.jar - Removal of the JavaEE APIs (activation, JAXB, JAXWS...) - Removal of javah - javac source/target pre 1.6 removal. - ByteBuffer return type changes (Java 11 compiled code breaks with 8) - sun.misc.Unsafe breaking changes - Javadoc pendantic errors, JQuery embedding But let's not rant too much and keep the talk positive :) > Why we all love JavaDoc? :E Grrr :) Emmanuel Bourg
