On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 03:38:00PM +0000, Ximin Luo wrote:
> +debian-science-sagemath as well
> 
> Ximin Luo:
> > tony mancill:
> >> [..]
> >>
> >> This upload was rejected due to a lintian error that existed in the
> >> source package before I added the patch.  Since NMUs are supposed to
> >> be very targeted, the rejection puts us in an odd place.  Will the
> >> upload to experimental [1] find its way into unstable before the
> >> freeze, or should I try again with 12.2.32?
> >>
> > 
> > Hi Tony and everyone else I added:
> > 
> > That depends on what DebiChem, Debian Med, and the Debian Java Team 
> > collectively want.
> > 
> > jmol has three reverse dependencies. The new upload, jmol 14, breaks all of 
> > them.
> > 
> > - biojava3-live can feasibly be dropped from Debian.
> > 
> > - biojava4-live is currently being worked on by the upstream developer. 
> > We're waiting to hear back from them.
> > 
> > - jalview's current version doesn't work with jmol 14, but the new version 
> > does. I started packaging it, but it adds several other dependencies not in 
> > Debian. Most of them seem bio related:
> > 
> >   https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-java/jalview.git/tree/debian/TODO
> > 
> >   fr.orsay.lri.varna.*
> >   htsjdk.samtools.*
> >   org.biodas.jdas.*
> >   org.jfree.graphics2d.svg.*
> > 
> > So we have a few options:
> > 
> > 1. Keep everything old in Debian, and SageMath out of Debian stable.
> > 2. Update Jmol in Debian, with a chance of SageMath entering Debian stable, 
> > but drop biojava4 and jalview from Debian stable. (They can remain broken 
> > in unstable, with a chance of fixing them later, ofc)
> > 3. Update Jmol in Debian, and update biojava4 and jalview as well.
> > 
> > If I work on (3) I don't think I will have any time to properly work on 
> > (2), but that is where my main personal interest lies. I'm also wondering 
> > what you all prefer, too.

Hi Ximin,

If the consensus is that there is value keeping the old package in
Debian for this release cycle, I think I can work on (1).  The upload
would be the prior NMU + swapping out the JSON library for a non-evil
implementation.  I just did the same port for JabRef (by way of
unirest-java), and it's not too difficult.

Cheers,
tony

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