On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:24:38AM +0930, Michael Gratton wrote: > > This should have gone to the list.. > > -- > ? Mike Gratton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ! Leader in leachate production and transmission since 1976. > > http://web.vee.net/
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:13:01 +0930 > From: Michael Gratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ja-JP; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010913 > X-Accept-Language: en-au, en-gb, en > To: Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Manifests are dangerous (Re: Symlinking jars is dangerous) > > > > Joe Emenaker wrote: > > > I'm not really an advocate of the symlinking idea, but am I the only one > > that thinks that this manifesat classpath thing is psychotic? > > > > > I actually think it's pretty cool. It may be questionable to use on a > server, but is massively useful for client-side applications. > > Getting someone to run `java -jar MyApp.jar` is *so* much easier than > trying to cope with every platform's (UNIX, Windows, MacOS) different > way of specifiying a classpath. > > > > So I'm not free to rename or move a jar that refers (or is referred to) > > unless I move all of the "family" in parallel? > > > Well, you use Debian, so you could use symlinks. > > > > Is there anything to prevent circular references? > > > > > Not sure. I doubt it. I just read the spec. And yes circular dependencies are handled as far as I can tell. > > It *looks* like this was someone's attempt at reducing the amount of stuff > > people had to specify on the command-line or in ENV vars... but this is just > > the wrong way to do it, IMHO. > > > I can't think of a *more convenient* way to do it, without resorting to > custom classloaders, or platform-specific scrips, or whatever. I think it is nice if used in a proper way. > > What if someone releases two jars and foo.jar's manifest makes reference to > > "../../../../../../../../bar.jar"? Am I faced with either putting bar.jar in > > my root dir or not using the package at all? > > > Ahh, well they're stupid then. Really, there's no point for someone to > reference a jar in that fashion - that is an abuse of the mechanism. And > would you really want to use software written by someone with such a > blatant lack of clue? 8) > > What would you do if a program forced you to create the directory: > /Joe/Blogs/Program/Data? Would you a) use it, b) get it fixed, c) fix it > yourself or d) use another program that did the same thing? Agreed. Regards, // Ola -- --------------------- Ola Lundqvist --------------------------- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Björnkärrsgatan 5 A.11 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 584 36 LINKÖPING | | +46 (0)13-17 69 83 +46 (0)70-332 1551 | | http://www.opal.dhs.org UIN/icq: 4912500 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---------------------------------------------------------------
