On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 04:21:09PM -0700, Per Bothner wrote: > Jeff Turner wrote: > > >I can write a Hello World program just fine with a completely blank > >classpath [1]. In fact, I can write any program that uses java.* and > >javax.* with nothing in the classpath except the package root. > > > $ javac foo.java > foo.java:1: cannot resolve symbol > symbol : class Servlet > location: package servlet > import javax.servlet.Servlet; > ^ > 1 error > Well this is not a simple HelloWorld program, it is a servlet. And the classes is in servlet2.2.jar right now.
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:16:58PM -0700, Per Bothner wrote: > > >Let's just suppose that some crazy people disagree with you, and don't > >want miscellaneous libraries in their classpath. > > > If people want that, they can use something analoguous to gcc's > -nostdinc option. > However, note that -nostdinc is not the default! > > >Suppose these people > >have been burnt by class version conflicts. Suppose these people get > >upset when moving their program to a different system, and finding they > >were unwittingly relying on some jar. > > > And how is this different from unwittingly relying on some .so? > > >You've now taken away the *choice* of those people. If the classpath was > >left blank, developers are free to include the following in their > >personal .bash_profile: > > > >for i in /usr/share/java/*.jar; do > > export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$i > >done > > > Requiring Java developers to modify their ~/.bashrc is not acceptable. > > >Now, are you feeling omniscient enough to declare that this will be fine > >with *all* developers out there? That there will *never* be a situation > >where an empty classpath is required? > > > No. However, we are talking about what the *default* should be. > > >I wonder why that is.. I don't remember using a 3rd party package beyond > >the STL. > > > Some people write more complex C or C++ programs than you do. If you've > ever compiled xemacs from source you might notice it looks for a lot of 3rd > party packages. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Regards, // Ola -- --------------------- Ola Lundqvist --------------------------- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Björnkärrsgatan 5 A.11 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 584 36 LINKÖPING | | +46 (0)13-17 69 83 +46 (0)70-332 1551 | | http://www.opal.dhs.org UIN/icq: 4912500 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---------------------------------------------------------------
