Hi Jan, > only to debian-java and not to the BTS?
Only to debian-java because I felt that it probably wasn't relevant enough to the bug report. > IMO, this has the big drawback, of all alternative > bases > configurations, that the app can't be sure that the > /usr/bin/java > will be able to run the app. Even more: it can't > even test for it, > because 'out of packaging' JVM are also considered, > which should not > happen. Well, if the Debian Java policy were modified so that the command line were rigorously defined (basically take the output of java -help from the Sun JVM or elsewhere) as a guideline, then the app would be guaranteed of this. The alternatives system works fine for sensible-editor, where you just specify a file on the command line, as all the editors I know of (hell, even Windows programs too) support that method of invocation. The same is true of sensible-browser if you use a URL (specifying a filename is more browser-dependent, e.g., mozilla index.html looks for a website http://index.html/ rather than a local file). I don't see why sensible-java, or just 'java' couldn't have a standard interface, with things like java -classpath BLAH -bootclasspath BLAH etc. Isn't that why Sun made the -X command line options, so that they could implement wierd options without worrying about breaking compatibility (because no-one relies on the -Xmx flag, right? :). If findjava does stuff with apt-get or dpkg, then perhaps it should be more of a debugging tool, rather than something that happens every time a Java program is launched. Startup time for Java programs is already a contentious issue, especially for servers. > > Is there a JVM in existence that doesn't provide > the standard 'java' > > wrapper (except Sun etc., where it isn't a > wrapper, obviously)? > > AFAIK: no. This seems to negate some of the reasons you gave, other than 'a future VM might not do this'. I should read the bug report and associated threads before writing further emails. Many regards and a happy Wednesday to you all, Ricky. > > Jan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]