Kevin,
Thanks for your interest and encouragement regarding Jikes RVM. The team is happy to provide a system that others will find useful. You are correct that the license for the libraries is more restrictive than the license governing the core RVM. I agree this is not ideal. The reason for this is addressed in the Q&A Overview (first link on left navigational menu), question 12, including here for convenience. 12. Why are different licenses used for the Jikes RVM and the libraries? The Jikes RVM is released under the CPL (Common Public License), which has been approved by the OSI (Open Source Initiative) as a fully certified open source license. The Jikes RVM was written as a test-bed for evaluating new virtual machine technologies. Research in library issues was not a major goal. However, a VM is not useful without a minimal set of libraries. The libraries available with the Jikes RVM were developed independently by developers at Object Technology International, an IBM company. Although the library license is not an open source license, it does facilitate open source development of the RVM. We encourage any users who would like to develop open source libraries that work with Jikes RVM. You wrote > I would suggest that a sub-project be started to integrate > the code from GNU Classpath which should be able to replace the JLibrary code. As the last sentence says, we would also encourage such an activity. Mike - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Hind Manager, Dynamic Optimization Group, Jalapeņo Project IBM Watson Research Center www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 914 784-7589, tieline: 863-7589 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin A. Burton)@www-126.southbury.usf.ibm.com on 10/24/2001 10:15:45 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sam Ruby/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, debian-java <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Jikesrvm-researchers] Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the x-post but I think this is relevant to everyone included. Hello. For starters I would like to congratulate IBM and the RVM team on your recent RVM 2.0 release (and published white-papers). This is definitely a great contribution to the Java and Open Source communities! Unfortunately, I have issues with the current RVM licensing terms. Specifically the licensing of the JLibrary package. http://www-124.ibm.com/cgi-bin/jikesrvm/jlibraries?rev=R-2001-10-13-22-25-43&jrv=2.0.0 This is a very restrictive license and I don't understand why it was chosen as it seems to go against the Open Source nature of the RVM. This prohibits innovative use of the RVM code. Specifically integration with GNU Classpath, distribution with Debian GNU/Linux, etc. Is there anyone at IBM we can talk with about changing the terms of the JLibrary package to an Open Source license? If the problem is a reliance on proprietary code (AKA SUNs code), I would suggest that a sub-project be started to integrate the code from GNU Classpath which should be able to replace the JLibrary code. Again. Congrats. I am very excited about the RVM release as I think that the lack of a quality (stable) Open Source JVM is hurting both the Java and Open Source communities. Thanks. Kevin - -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org The invariable mark of wisdom is to see the miraculous in the common. - Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE713XAAwM6xb2dfE0RAlAfAKCFhNdFzf3NsW0jARDHat9/53iLgACfQaYW L8pZxwjCIV53p/ZkYHVXYN8= =CeMK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Jikesrvm-researchers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/mailman/listinfo/jikesrvm-researchers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]