Comments inline:

Ola Lundqvist wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have followed the java instalation issues thread. So I'l try
> to summarize and give some new proposals.
> 
> Java libraries:
> * Java libraries should go to /usr/share/java if they are
>   jar files and /usr/share/java/repository if they are a collection
>   of classes.
> * Usage of jar files should be encouraged because they can
>   be versioned.
> * The jar file should be named name-version.jar and defaults
>   should be a symbolic link with the name name.jar
>   Quite the same way as C-libraries.

Naming the jars with a package name convention would reduce name
clashes.  For example there may be several XML parsers with a parser.jar
These should be named:

    com.sun.parser.jar
    org.apache.parser.jar

etc.

For my own stuff I specify the package name to the first branch in the
package nameing.

This convention will also encourage common classes to NOT be included
in many jar files (eg javax.servlet.* or org.sax.* etc.).

I don't think this naming policy should be policed, only encouraged.



> * Here is a proposal. API dependencies should be specified in
>   a way so that it should be easy to set the classpath. I can
>   create the bash script and place it in java-common if you like.
> 
>   Perhaps /usr/share/java/foo-ver.apidep just lists what
>   jars it depends on. And then a script generates the classpath
>   for the developer to use. Personally I would like to have this
>   when building my java packages.


It should also indicate JVM dependancies  eg  ">1.2.2 & !ibm1.3.2"

It would be good to have a common shell script include that would
build classpaths and check JVM dependancies that could be included
in start scripts.


> Build:
>   Is it possible to create a script that generates this automaticly?
>   Like a dh_javadeps... It should also generate the dependencies
>   in the control file...
> 
> Jvm:
> * .so files should be placed in /usr/lib
> * We should find a way to make it possible to use switch between
>   java virtual machines without having to reset the classpath or similar.
>   But maybe this simply is too early.
> * Maybe putting jvm implementation jars in /usr/share/java/$impl
>   is the solution. Packages that proviedes similar functionality
>   should then have the same name. like tools.jar could point
>   to classes.zip (in jdk1.1).
> * Or maybe each jvm should have its own dependency file that the
>   dependency script could use.
> 
> Java programs:
> * Should as before have a exec that fixes all issues. This will
>   be easier if a dependency script is created (see above).
> 
> Have I missed something?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> // Ola



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