>>>>> "EvB" == Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
    me> Sendmail is _very_ flexible but it is probably not good for the
    me> inexperienced admin.  If you are willing to read documentation
    me> and M4 doesn't scare you, it is a fairly safe bet.

    EvB> Which bet being safe? That it can eventually do what you
    EvB> want, given enough time and attention? Probably. [...]

Hmm, it takes the insertion of a couple of lines and the creation of 
the map file (which you would have to anyway) to get virtual mail
forwarding in sendmail.  Covered in detail in the FAQ.  It really
isn't that hard.  You don't even invoke M4 manually -- just run make or
sendmailconfig under Debian to update everything.  

    me> In my most humble opinion one ought not be running an ISP of
    me> any viable size if one has trouble getting sendmail to do
    me> what's needed.

    EvB> Ah, the old initiation-by-sendmail.cf idea. Well. I'd say
    EvB> that an administrator who has been through it probably has
    EvB> some stamina, and is able to grasp a certain level of
    EvB> complexity, but other than that, I wouldn't consider "willing
    EvB> and able to set up sendmail" a good criterium for knowing how
    EvB> to run an ISP. 

Oh that is not what I said.  All I said was "if unable to get sendmail
to do what's needed then probably unfit for the job" NOT "fit for the
job if willing and able to deal with sendmail"   I _agree_ with that last
part of your paragraph, but it is not what I said!

    EvB> Grasping BGP, *SMTP*, DNS, HTTP, Unix and
    EvB> having some rudimentary knowledge about programming computers
    EvB> in general seem so much more important. [...]

Yup, for the original question (virtual web + mail), I'd start by DNS,
then http, SMTP in that order.  

cheers,

BM


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