>>Should we leave control of crime to the victim as well? Or do you think that >>a professional police force is better?
Well I do not remember ever seeing on the evening news or morning news paper that somebody was hurt or worst killed from a Spam attack! Have you ever been a victom of crime? Has somebody in your family been killed by a drunk driver? Can anybody who's been a victom of crime honestly say "oh it's ok, but I sure wish a police was with me when it happened"? Anyway, this is heading down another road, and yes, I am fully aware of the importance of our police department/force, in every country. >>When users try to deal with spam they often complain to the wrong people >>(think about joe-job's), they take the wrong actions (think about sending >>email to the "remove" address in a spam), and they don't have the competence >>to do it properly (think about the people who block postmaster mail etc, or >>who just block everything and complain to their ISP). Somebody who blocks everything, or ignorantly complains to their ISP, needs to be educated, not hand-held. That "education" in my mind is a service and responsibilty of the ISP, an if it's a matter of getting too many phone calls per day, there can easily be an FAQ posted on the ISP web site. Or maybe more appropriately it should be the responsibility of the software vendor providing the Anti-Spam software. >>It's better for the ISP to have an anti-spam system that blocks most of the >>spam that customers want blocked and gets a small enough number of >>false-positives that they don't mind. Some ISPs find that SpamCop's DNSBL >>fits this description... Who on the ISP side knows what the customer wants (blocked)? Are the ISPs calling all of their customers and asking? So the world will come to a day when all Internet users won't have much choice, won't know what's getting blocked, won't know who's controlling what, won't know who's making what decision, the largest ISP will take-over the competition, and before we know it, there will be an Internet monopoly much the same as the PC software industry of the past 20 or more years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Coker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Cates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Which Spam Block List to use for a network? On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:54, "Robert Cates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spam Black ("Block") Lists? Not a good thing in my opinion!! I mean, > e-mail servers can be configured NOT to relay for unauthorized domains > anyway. I'm not an advocate of e-mail Spamming. I just feel that the > control or blocking should be left up to the individual user. Just like > it's my choice which "Office" package I want to (buy and) use. ;-) Should we leave control of crime to the victim as well? Or do you think that a professional police force is better? When users try to deal with spam they often complain to the wrong people (think about joe-job's), they take the wrong actions (think about sending email to the "remove" address in a spam), and they don't have the competence to do it properly (think about the people who block postmaster mail etc, or who just block everything and complain to their ISP). It's better for the ISP to have an anti-spam system that blocks most of the spam that customers want blocked and gets a small enough number of false-positives that they don't mind. Some ISPs find that SpamCop's DNSBL fits this description... -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]