Well.. the main issue I had with the mail was not as much the info you gave.. but in the same breath you took to give us the info, you apologized, and yet again.
I still think this was an add in disguise as I explained to Eric apart of the debian-'isp' list. I'm not in any boubt about the intentions though. Let that be clear. On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 08:12:02PM -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: > > After seeing the responses, I feel it's appropriate that I apologize to > the list. While I feel my post was justified in that I was answering a > legitimate question, I probably should have been more sensitive to the > fact that Jason brought up -- we are almost all affiliated with an ISP > or hosting company or whatever on this list, and a certain amount of > respect ought to go along with what we as members post. > > My apologies to you all. > > Thanks- > Eric > > > > On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 06:34 PM, Tim Quinlan wrote: > > >Well, you have to commend Mark's honesty. He did say, "I really didn't > >want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales platform." And he > >answered the question. > > > >It's better than being subversive and saying something like, "I am a > >_very_ _happy_ customer of company XYZ. They rule!!!!" > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 20:16, Jason Lim wrote: > >>Agree... let's try and keep this for a discussion about ISPs running > >>Debian... not Sales & Marketing. > >> > >>We're pretty much all offering Debian here as part of our services, > >>otherwise we wouldn't BE here to start with ;-) > >> > >>I don't think anyone minds a line or two mentioning your company, > >>cool... > >>but the whole email with paragraphs worth of promotions? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Mark Lijftogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Loopshot Operator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 6:46 AM > >>Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints? > >> > >> > >>> > >>>You forgot about how your company is growing, the amount of job > >>openings, > >>>the nice and bright future and stuff.. > >>> > >>>naah.. nevermind.. > >>> > >>> > >>>On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:27:00PM -0800, Loopshot Operator wrote: > >>>>Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints? > >>>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: Jamie Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>From: Loopshot Operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>>I really didn't want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales > >>>>platform, but it seems like there are several interested parties > >>>>looking for Debian-specific dedicated/managed hosting stateside. > >>>> > >>>>Our firm does just that. We are Debian-specific, in that we really > >>>>don't promote other distros or OSes nearly as much (only if > >>requested). > >>>> Pricing is $195/mo. for 30 GB of bandwidth. Full data-center > >>>>amenities, such as 10 day battery backup, diesel generator backup, > >>dual > >>>>DS-3 capacity, environmental control, etc. > >>>> > >>>>With our dedicated server packages, we also give you access to your > >>own > >>>>power control so you can power-cycle your server as you see fit. We > >>>>will also do full monitoring of ports/services/intrusion and nightly > >>>>backup, if you so desire, (although most on this list seem like > >>they're > >>>>perfectly capable of doing that themselves.) > >>>> > >>>>So that aside, feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like more > >>>>information. Our web site is currently being revamped, so some of > >>>>the > >>>>info on there is out of date. Here's the contact info: > >>>> > >>>>Eric Jennings > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Loopshot, Inc. > >>>>http://www.loopshot.com > >>>>+1 (775) 856-3455 > >>>> > >>>>Once again, my apologies for those who may not be interested, but I > >>>>thought I'd mention it since several have asked about firms offering > >>>>Debian servers in the U.S. > >>>> > >>>>Thanks- > >>>>Eric > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Jamie Penner wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Wish they were in N. America! (or someone like them!) > >>>>> > >>>>>At 12:46 PM 2/17/2003, you wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Brett Parker wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.positiveinternet.co.uk/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>isn't that www.positive-internet.co.uk? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The address works with or without the hyphen; with or without the > >>www. > >>>>>>(That's the sort of attention to little detail you get with them.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> one of the maintainers of the debian packages for apache2 works > >>>>>>>there, he has clue > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Not only that, but when chatting on #debian-uk one night, I got > >>>>>>instant > >>>>>>service from one of their employees for a question about their > >>>>>>service I had, > >>>>>>that just cropped up in the course of conversation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Very, very "Debian", all round. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>> > >>> > >>>-- Mark Lijftogt > >>>-- http://www.qut.nl > >>>-- http://www.lijftogt.nl > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > >-- > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- -- Mark Lijftogt -- http://www.qut.nl -- http://www.lijftogt.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
