Hi, On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Jason Lim wrote:
> As for abuse by USA spammers, its not easy for me to explain to you. > I'm half Asian... one of my parents are Asian. I grew up in Asia. I > spend half my time in Asia. And I can really say there are 2 things I > can see. 1) software mainly written in english... yes, this is a real > problem. Not for me... but I have seen my fellow workers and clients > struggle with the terminology, etc. trying to understand english > manuals. 2) Asian culture tends to be "permissive", as in you are > allowed to do virtually anything you want unless you do something bad. 1) is indeed a real problem. I'd consider 2) actually a virtue. :) > This is one very good reason why, in Asia, people talk more about the > "spirit" of the law, rather than the actual law itself. In the long run, > probably every country will end up being forced to have very convoluted > and extremely large/long USA-style law detailing every little single > possible occurance of anything. Ha. We face the similar troubles here in Europe -- people here tend to be wary of the claim culture with all it's associated legal nonsense. > Asian people believe in giving "face", and that means not limiting or > stepping on people's toes if at all possible. Thus many ISPs do not > like to or want to force their clients to change mail settings, or cut > them off if they run insecure mail servers. But in your line of reasoning, if people tend to have a good feel for the unwritten rules of society, and what it means to be a good member of a community, then it shouldn't be hard for ISPs to get the message across to their customers that running open relays just isn't good Internet citizenship. In a polite way, without force. > I sincerely doubt that Asian companies nor people like to or want to have > their things abused by foreigners. Think about it... China VS USA... and > you'll understand what I mean. Thus there is no malicious intent by > Chinese sysadmins for leaving open relays, but there IS malicious intent > by USA spammers to abuse Asia. Of course these companies don't want that. I'm also not arguing it's malicious intent, but it feels a bit like negligence to the Internet community. Which is indeed strange considering that people in Asia as far as I know tend to be careful NOT to neglect the needs of society / a community as a whole. On the other hand, I also doubt that the USA spammers actually have any intents whatsoever for any open relay owner. They just take advantage of him, without considering anything or anybody, as far as I can see. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 | http://www.e-advies.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]