Hi, in Debian we have some infrastructure projects which to my perception are quite important because they are:
1. directly visible for the user 2. globally needed for all packages I'm personally speaking about I18N and DebTags - may be there are more. After some observation I came to the conclusion that due to a flow of manpower both projects lost some part of the momentum they had before and I wonder if nobody would like to join these teams. IMHO the advantage to start contributing to Debian in teams like this is that you not necessarily need to have high technical skills but there are nice ways to contribute with communication and classification tasks. This could be a fascinating way to dive into the Debian universe from a pure users perspective and dedicate some time to Debian that it will remain your favourite distribution also in the long term future. Why do I think that the teams need help? 1. I18N ------- The team is responsible for all those users out there who do not understand English necessarily enough to make the best out of Debian. While it is probably not you when reading this mail - it is the majority of the world population anyway. So we should care and the I18N team has done an amazing job. Christian Perrier had a lot of talks with pure success stories colouring the world map more and more with countries that at least for some languages spoken there covered by the Debian installer. And speaking about talks: Christian will tell you more precisely like I could do in how many countries he was invited to talk to people. So if you like to travel around the world - the Debian I18N team could provide some options for you. ;-) Unfortunately several people left the team for different reasons which even becomes visible on the teammetrics graph[1]. It somehow looks like the-bubulle-list but please have a second look at the years 2006 to 2009 when there was a quite colourful baseline of people who were doing active work. It would be great if we somehow could fill the gaps at the bottom with active people. Another signal why I think the team needs help is that since the Wheezy release the propagation of translations to Debian seems to have stalled (see #722618) and translators are not happy about this[2] if the time they spent seems to be wasted. While this is certainly a technical issue it also has a lot to do with communication and trying to bring together the right people. 2. DebTags ---------- DebTags are a really cool way to dig for packages inside Debian and I think their current application is even lagging behind the possibilities this clever tool could provide. We have one shiny example for a nice use case which is goplay (with friends golearn, goscience, gosafe and others) which could be quite helpful for newcomers and we also have axi-cache which might be widely unknown even if it would deserve more attention by users. May be we have even more DebTags based applications. On the other side the teammetrics image shows[3] that people left alone the place where we discuss about the development of tags. If you look into the archive of this list for this month[4] you find only one thread which is basically a CC from the Debian Junior list where people desperately try to discuss some new tags to push the Debian Junior project a bit (BTW, also Debian Junior is a project that wants you, but this does not really fit into the two criterions I have put in the beginning of this mail). So in other words: There is nobody who is able to make up his mind about new tags - even if this is something that does not require actual technical skills but rather some sense for finding proper categories, simply applying common sense to the Debian package pool. So if you feel you want to become a well respected member of the Debian community just "be bold" (Sam Hocevar[5]) and try to become active in these teams according to your preference. I'm pretty sure the current team members will be very welcoming and will not leave you alone in your struggle to learn the internals. They have some good history of teaching newcomers and you can rely on them ... as long as they are motivated and not fully left alone which might be the case in the future if nobody might come and join them. Kind regards Andreas. [1] http://blends.debian.net/liststats/authorstat_debian-i18n.png [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=722618#10 [3] http://blends.debian.net/liststats/authorstat_debtags-devel.png [4] https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debtags-devel/2013-September/thread.html [5] http://sam.zoy.org/lectures/20070617-debconf-dpl/slides.pdf -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-i18n-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130913112025.gd4...@an3as.eu