(please keep both lists CC'ed to replies. No need to CC me of course) Holidays are good for deep work, so here I am with a huge proposal about "language" tasks.
I have read all language tasks contents and, with no doubt, they deeply lack consistency and, moreover, we do not really exploit the potential we have with tasksel. So, here I come with several improvements (all being already implemented in rewritten language tasks on my laptop): 1) Introduce <language>-kde-desktop tasks By introducing the kde-desktop task, recent tasksel version introduce a problem: several <language>-desktop tasks include kde-i18n-<language> package (or koffice-i18n-<language>)and thus indirectly imply installing KDE...or installing a useless package, as desktop does not install KDE anymore. One solution to this seems to create <language>-kde-desktop tasks which could be installed when <language> and kde-desktop tasks are installed. These tasks will contain the relevant kde-i18n-<language> package and koffice-i18n-<language> package, when they exist. Example for French: Task: french-kde-desktop Depends: french, kde-desktop Section: l10n Description: French KDE desktop This task localises the KDE desktop in French. Key: Packages-list: kde-i18n-fr koffice-i18n-fr This includes creating *-kde-desktop task for ALL languages which have at least a kde-i18n-xx file, even those we do not yet support in D-I. 2) Include OpenOffice and Firefox l10n packages to ALL <language>-desktop tasks Both OpenOffice and Mozilla Firefox packages (which are installed by "desktop") include their localization data to *-l10n-* packages. I hereby propose to add these packages, when they exist, to ALL <language>-desktop tasks. When the <language>-desktop task does not yet exist, it is created with one of these packages, or both. In the same time, I REMOVE mozilla-locale-<language> packages from the *-desktop tasks which installed them, as the desktop tasks DOES NOT install mozilla but "only" mozilla-firefox 3) Include myspell-* packages to ALL <language>-desktop tasks myspell-* packages are needed for OpenOffice spellchecking. I hereby propose adding them to the <language>-desktop tasks (or move them there from the <language> tasks in some cases). Again, when the <language>-desktop task does not yet exist, it is created with this package. 4) Include aspell-* packages to <language> tasks GNU aspell is now the standard spellchecking software on Unix systems. I hereby propose adding them to the <language> tasks. Again, when the <language> task does not yet exist, it is created with this package. 5) Create some empty tasks for dependencies Here, I'm not really sure this is needed. The above proposals imply creating some <language>-kde-desktop tasks while no <language>-desktop or no <language> tasks exist. For dependencies to be satisfied, some empty tasks need to be created. For instance, the Tajik language has a KDE l10n and thus a tajik-kde-desktop task is to be created. However, as no OpenOffice, myspell or aspell packages exist for Tajik, no tajik-desktop or tajik tasks are created by this process. Then I propose empty (temporarily?) tasks to fill in the dependencies: tajik-desktop: # This task is actually empty and has just been created # for tajik-kde-desktop to be installable Task: tajik-desktop Depends: tajik Section: l10n Description: Tajik desktop This task localises the desktop in Tajik. Key: Packages-list: tajik: # This task is actually empty and has just been created # for tajik-desktop to be installable Task: tajik Test-lang: tg Section: l10n Description: Tajik environment This task installs packages and documentation in Tajik to help Tajik speaking people use Debian. Key: Packages-list: Conclusion --------- All this would lead to the creation of a huge number of tasks. Actually, tasksel includes 70 tasks. My proposal would bump this number to 182. The proposal would also change some existing tasks...but always to adding consistency and NEVER removing existing installed packages. I don't really know the consequence in terms of the FTP archive organization and induced work for ftpmasters, if there are some. So, apologies in advance in case my proposal implies a lot of work... All these tasks are ready on my hard disk and I'm convinced they would improve the localization a lot...especially if we later change tasksel to install several language tasks when several languages are selected during the installation of the system. I know the consequences for translators: they will virtually kill me...:-). But I'll manage...(and updates can be done with simple search/replaces in PO files anyway) Please feel free to comment... As soon as I'll be back home, I will publish my modified tasks for review by translators and D-I developers. Non implemented proposal ------------------------ The desktop task currently install mozilla-firefox packages but should IMHO also install mozilla-thunderbird packages. This probably is more debatable (including debating in -devel), so I did not implement this in my modified tasks. Please comment as well... -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
