First of all, let me just announce that I will make several followups
to this mail probably, because it drives several topics, and
discussing all together may not be easy..:-)


> PRESENT: The localization effort is currently desasterous. There are
> several tools to use, many points of entry (which noone names
> explicitely), there is only a little bit of structure. 

I beg to strongly disagree on the first statement. Though being far
from perfect, the localisation effort already has some infrastructure
and a lot of things are indeed working.

Some of this infrastructure has been hit by November 2003 compromise
and, because people who used to maintain it have been too busy since
them (usual Debian syndrom).

For instance, as far as I know, the web interface translation system
works. It does not make use of gettext in any manner, but there are
some good tools around which work quite well (others will probably
give some URLs).

The debconf templates translation used to have a good system with
Denis Barbier scripts and status pages. After the compromise, Denis
moved them elsewhere, and probably hadn't time for bringing them
back. This is why the link below, which are temporary links are
currently not i18nized:
 - http://people.debian.org/~barbier/intl/l10n/po-debconf/
 - http://people.debian.org/~barbier/intl/l10n/templates/

Martin Quinson, along with Nicolas Bertolissio and Tim Dijkstra from
the Dutch team, is working on enhancing the system for having some tracking
of how teams work is advancing.
 - http://graal.ens-lyon.fr/~mquinson/debian/po-debconf.fr.html

(before that, *i* was the one who followed fr transltors work with a
kind of home work based on a OO spreadsheet...:-)) Martin savez a lot
of my time)

So, no I can't let tell you that the l10n effort is disastrous. It
just may be greatly enhanced on several points.

This is why I appreciate your efforts for summarizing things, but as
much as possible, don't give the impression that you want to throw
away things which work currently... I'm pretty sure this is not your
intention, but, well...this is e-mail, you know..:-)

End of 1st point...



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