Hi guys, I have been in contact with Christian Schwartz, and I'd like to help get ting the keys right in hamm. The approach I use to get those [EMAIL PROTECTED] keys right is to remap the system keymap, setting keycode 14 to backspace and keycode 111 to delete. Not only is this in my opinion the way it should be (at least it's in accordance with the rest of the Unix world) it also works (for the programs I know of). From what I gather you think the same. The following list is a list of programs which need some coniguration and the way to do it:
athena-apps Xresources (these include xpaint, xbmbrowser, xman, xmh, xedit, pixmap, bitmap, editres) bash inputrc (readline) joe joerc jove joverc kvt inputrc less lesskey-inputfile (may not be necessary) login kernelpatch (or maybe /etc/login.defs?) mutt muttrc nedit Xresources netscape XKeysymDB pico pico -d pine pinerc (t)csh cshrc xterm Xresources X xkeycaps/xmodmap, should not be necessary I believe you already have a way to deal with emacs. There must be apps that I am not aware of. I think elm and ksh will probably have problems with the remapping. I guess we should compile a list of other apps with problems (and work-arounds of course). I guess most X programs are ok, since the keys do not have to be changed in X (not on my current system anyway). I know of textbased apps in which both backspace and delete delete to the left of the cursor (backspace), but this is not much of a problem IMHO (I am not even sure these apps are aware of the existence of delete). In short, what (text-based) programs (editors?) out there have problems with the modified keymap? The kernelpatch mentioned above changes the default keymap, swapping backspace and delete, and setting the default erasecharacter to BS. Login uses the default erasecharacter, so without the patch backspace will only put ^H on the screen at the login prompt. An alternative may be /etc/login.defs, where an ERASECHAR (and/or KILLCHAR) can be defined. It hasn't worked for me yet, but I'll try a bit harder (I guess the kernel guys will not readily accept the patch at this stage, even if its so small and simple). In a few days time I plan to install hamm and apply all the modifications mentioned above. If any of you would do the same that would be great (all instructions are to be found at http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard.html). Let me know what you think about all this, Regards, Anne Baretta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]