On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> > There is a major difference between the GNU/Hurd and all the
> > Linux and BSD ports. We are creating a new os.
> >
> > I fail to see who exactly is creating a new OS.
>
> Those people who are hacking the GNU Hurd and not playing Hurd
> politics.
>
> Then you can't mean Debian GNU/Hurd.
?????
> > I know you cannot mean Debian GNU/Hurd, since it is a second
> > class citizen within Debian and will _always_ be a second class
> > citizen.
>
> Why? Evidence?
>
> Debian. Look around you, Debian GNU/Hurd must always defend anything
> that is done differently.
Debian???? Some Debian people are pro GNU Hurd. Other Debian GNU/Linux
people defend their Linux position and start a debate. This is to be
welcomed. From the GNU Hurd side this debate should be conducted politely
and constructively.
> Debian is made up of people with widely differing views, so some
> will be interested in new os's, others indifferent, yet others
> anti. Your statement is misleading.
>
> It isn't, it is quite accurate. Debian's main goal is to provide a
> single operating system, and that is Debian GNU/Linux. People will
> complain for the sake of complaining that Debian GNU/Hurd does
> something differently from Debian GNU/Linux. See the recent
> "discussion" about /hurd and the FHS, and see past discussions about
> similar topics.
Provision of GNU/Linux. Main purpose yes, assumed. Original purpose yes,
see Ian Murdoch's 1994 "The Debian Manifesto". "Debian Constitution"
1999, no - Linux is not mentioned at all. I do not know the history of
Debian's acceptance of GNU Hurd as a non-Linux port.
When above issues come up we need to debate well. These are opportunities
for education.
> > I also know that you cannot mean the GNU system, since "we"
> > consists of less people then there are people hacking on the Hurd
> > right now.
>
> What do you mean?
>
> Sorry, I don't understand.
?????
Let the debate continue. Other participants welcome.
Phil.
--
Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand
+64 3 488 2818 Fax +64 3 488 2875 Mobile 025 267 9420
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs & DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
