On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:16:22PM +0200, Yann Forget wrote: > The statement by Linus 10 years back is still valid. What > the purpose to have a new design, a micro-kernel and > whatever if it is not even remotely useable ? Developpers > have managed to compile half of Debian packages, but > they did not even think to provide a way to boot it !
"Nobody has ever booted the Hurd. We just cross compile. Nobody here has ever seen the Hurd running, because it is completely vapor ware. We do this to trick people into trying out the Hurd and give them a bad day." So you could think. But it is not the case. How about a bug report, with factual data what you did and what happened? There is a plethora of common pitfalls, and even if you did everything right, hardware conflicts could explain a lot of other trouble. But we will never know until you help us to help you and provide us with a report that contains more fact than opinion. That is only useful though if you are interested in developing the Hurd, or otherwise promoting it. Comparing our development effort with the GNU/Linux distributions from 2002 just isn't fair, especially if you don't take into account the resources that are available and go into each (which are millions of dollars and thousands of people on the one hand, and a handful bucks to nothing and a few determined individuals on the other hand). Here is another hint: The Hurd is not primarly about device drivers. All device driver developers seem to have found their place in Linux or other kernel projects which focus on device drivers. We will improve this in the future by using a more uptodate and better developed device driver framework, OSKit (and possibly L4env if it becomes available and we use L4). This would be a lot easier if Linux developers would be interested in writing reusable and shareable code, too. As a consequence, the Hurd is much more picky about hardware than desirable. Things like IRQ sharing are not supported. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
