Hi, On 2025-02-26 10:12, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:28:03PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > The bulk of libc6 package consists of gconv files for obsolete locales. > > This costs us 8.2MB per arch, even for minimal containers. > > Indeed, gconv files are >10% of minimal containers right now: > $ podman run -it --rm debian:unstable-slim > root@5afbafb696c0:/# du -hs --one-file-system / > 81M / > root@5afbafb696c0:/# du -hs --one-file-system /usr/lib/*/gconv > 8.2M /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv > > > Fedora has done so, then lowered the dependency to Recommends last year: > > https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Gconv_package_split_in_glibc > > They've decided to keep a handful of often used old locales, which is > > probably reasonable. > > Specifically, this is the relevant fragment from the Fedora package with > the regexp that matches which locales to keep in the main glibc package: > # The primary gconv converters are in the glibc package, the rest goes > # into glibc-gconv-extra. The Z9 and Z900 subpatterns are for > # s390x-specific converters. The -name clause skips over files > # that are not loadable gconv modules. > split_sysroot_file_list \ > %{_libdir}/gconv '-name *.so' \ > 'gconv/ > (CP1252 > |ISO8859-15? > |UNICODE > |UTF-[0-9]+ > |ISO-8859-1_CP037_Z900 > |UTF(8|16)_UTF(16|32)_Z9 > )\.so$' \ > gconv-extra.filelist glibc.filelist > > Source: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/rawhide/f/glibc.spec#_1896 > > > Thus: could you please move the gconv files to a new package; with a > > hard dependency from libc6 for now?
Thanks for the pointer, that make things easier. > Agreed! Shipping ancient DOS codepages and EBCDIC to every Debian system > in 2025 feels just wasteful to me :) > > It's great that Fedora has already paved the way here and did most of > the hard work! I don't know how your appetite is in doing this for > trixie, but I'd personally love to see this happen. That looks almost impossible for trixie, the freeze is in 2 weeks, and it has to go through NEW... Regards Aurelien -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 4096R/1DDD8C9B aurel...@aurel32.net http://aurel32.net
