Rashad, Bas,

The core OSSIM team reviewed the open issues (113, 114, 115) and as of
today those issues are resolved in the dev branches of the ossimlabs
collection of repositories. I hope this takes care of any concerns with
OSSIM in Debian..

Rashad wrote:
>I had discussed this issue in depth with OTB developer team during our
>last
>meet.  And it is not the first time OTB is fixing errors for this
>project.
>Note that, we have a copy of ossim_plugins which cannot be merged for a
>long time. The problem here is we cannot keep fixing stuff for OSSIM as
>they keep all discussions and releases, private bug tracker far away
>from
>us.
>If the project has cared a bit more about its existence in open source
>ecosystem, it would have been bit more interesting to us.
>Before the last release, we came to know for new releases from OSSIM by
>looking in download.osgeo.org/ossim/
>And that's just about tip of issues we had with how development
>activities
>goes in OSSIM.

I do not understand Rashad's comment about the issue tracker being kept
"far away". It is publicly available on github.com/ossimlabs. This is the
tracker we use internally as well, though necessarily separate from ongoing
proprietary contracts tasking issues. OSSIM is used in a wide array of
projects, not just OTB. We appreciate that OTB is using OSSIM and would be
happy to understand what the issues are that is forcing them to fork from
the main project.

Regarding the jsoncpp being embedded, that was not an "error" as was
pointed out, but an intentional decision to reduce outside dependencies for
small packages. I understand the concern and have since removed those files.

Rashad, we have had an open dialog in the past regarding issues
encountered. The reason we moved to github was to facilitate outside
involvement in the OSSIM open source project. People can do (and have done)
pull requests for bug fixes they find. To say that you won't merge with the
dev branch because you "keep fixing stuff" is not in the spirit of open
source. We would welcome those fixes. Please create a branch and do a pull
request. OSSIM dev is bleeding edge and will always have issues. While the
core team does its best to keep it running (through dev-ops style building
and testing), there are bound to be undiscovered bugs. The reality is that
we are getting paid by clients to add new capability and fix bugs we
discover. We can't be expected to operate a customer service center for all
users of OSSIM. Let's be constructive. What specifically should we do to
improve our presence in the open-source eco-system? I'll be the first to
say we need more documentation, though we have come a long way in that
regard. I also feel we need to be more proactive on issues submitted, but,
again, we are not getting paid to fix everything. If someone found a bug,
it would be best for them to fix it and use the pull-request function, not
just report it as an issue.

In any case, please let us know of any more issues regarding the debian
hosting via the github.com/ossimlabs/ossim/issues page, or shoot us an
email on the list for general comments and suggestions

Thanks,
Oscar Kramer

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