Hamish wrote: > > while it is more of an effort to "make it work" than a proper > > packaging effort, [...] Andreas: > I do not agree with the point Hamish is making here.
Careful, I don't think you see my point correctly. :) I wear a number of hats, in this case I was talking about to make OSGeo's Live DVD work before it needs to go to the printers for some specific conference we/I have to use some unkosher hacks (from from a debian packaging point of view) from time to time. I'm not trying to say it's a good thing, just different solutions for a different set of needs. On the xUbuntu OSGeo Live dvd when the official packages are too far out of date or simply not there (as is the case for most of the Java apps), we either pull them from a private PPA (like UbuntuGIS's one), rebuild them ourselves (as I did for osm2pgsql as we wanted a non-ancient version), or do some ugly boot time work-around hack to get past some bug. Some of the packages on the disc are now packaged into .debs for the first time because of the effort. IMO the PPAs are a great low-barrier-to-entry low-harassment training ground for growing new packagers, teaching them the tools. The PPAs are a total PITA from a the point of view of some sysadmin trying to maintain a sane system, but that's not really the point or the target audience. Our long-term working goal for the osgeo live dvd is to have everything as deb, and my personal long-term goal is to have those debs integrated into Debian. (since anything that isn't is often problematic, and those problems end up becoming my problems) If a PPA is a step along that road, fine with me. And so, in general I agree with you! AFA my own efforts, any effort going into anything but upstream DebianGIS pkging is wasteful double handling, "do it right the first time" would be better, but the world can be a fuzzy place with some level of inefficiency to it. The scripts I linked to provide some real-world guidance of what needs to be fixed to get everything working together, and at least some work-arounds to get folks started, simply "in the hope that they will be useful", and that's all. > Do you need a sponsor for your work? if you have any spare time, I've been trying to get the finalized OpenCPN package sponsored by someone for almost a year.. (ITP# 538067) I'd pretty much given up trying until the release freeze was over, the fastest option was looking like me going through the DD process myself. cheers, Hamish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
