Hi Justin, Am 3. August 2025 09:23:23 MESZ schrieb Justin B Rye <[email protected]>: >Holger Wansing wrote: >>> needrestart in the default config prompts what should be restarted. >>> I doubt intended behaviour of needrestart qualifies as a bug, and >>> it's users need to remember they have it. >> >> At some time we had the recommendation, to start the upgrade from virtual >> console, not from X. >> Maybe we need that to come back .... >> >> I personally still do it like this. > >Unfortunately if this was GNOME's killing-spree mode, being logged in >"outside" the graphical session wouldn't help, because these days with >desktop environment processes running as a big mess of independent >services instead of all being children of a window manager, logind >doesn't try to distinguish. Under at least some circumstances (one of >them being if the option KillUserProcesses is set to "Yes", which has >at times been the upstream default), restarting GNOME sprays userspace >with kill signals to ensure no VT logins or cronjobs or detached tmux >sessions survive.
Wow, this is getting way to complicated for me. I'm out here... Holger -- Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3
