On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 04:31:45PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: > Isnt that effectively what debian has done by setting systemd-timesync > to "standard" priority? > > if that's a bad decision, you should make the case to debian to change > it i would think? > (standard = installed by default, per debian policy)
Isn't it too late to fix this in bookworm? I can provide data showing problems that some pool.ntp.org servers had in the past, but as the upstream maintainer of chrony I'm probably not the best person to be proposing changes in the priority of NTP packages in Debian. Another option would be to change the default servers of timesyncd, e.g. to time.cloudflare.com, which is very reliable and has a great coverage around the world from what I have seen so far. I suspect people would not find it acceptable to rely on a commercial providers. > if no-one else does, i can draft some text that says > - ntp is dropped (do we know why?). I think the main reason is very slow upstream development with a large number of known unfixed security issues. > ntpsec is a direct replacement, > but there is also chrony openntpd is another NTP client that I think should be recommended. (Not as a server though.)