On Sat 30 Oct 2021 at 09:03:50 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I suppose debian-faq and kbd packages needs to be updated. > > For the original question, in my debian-reference explains as: > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch08.en.html#_the_keyboard_input_for_linux_console_and_x_window > > --- > The Debian system can be configured to work with many international keyboard > arrangements using the keyboard-configuration and console-setup packages. > > # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration > # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup > > For the Linux console and the X Window system, this updates configuration > parameters > in "/etc/default/keyboard" and "/etc/default/console-setup". This also > configures the > Linux console font. Many non-ASCII characters including accented characters > used by > many European languages can be made available with dead key, AltGr key, and > compose > key. > --- > > I agree with Justine that things has changed and I think I updated my doc > over 10 > years ago. Of course, I don't remember the details now. (I will continue > this > discussion after quoted text.) > > On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 22:43 +0100, RL wrote: > > Justin B Rye <justin.byam....@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > sebul wrote: > > > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/customizing.en.html#consolefont > > > > says /etc/kbd/config file > > > > But, I cannot find /etc/kbd/config on my Debian. > > > > How can I solve it? > > > > > > /etc/kbd/config is deprecated in favour of /etc/default/console-setup > > > (see /usr/share/doc/kbd/NEWS.Debian.gz). This seems to imply kbd's > > > package description is also cobwebby: > > > > > > # Description: Linux console font and keytable utilities > > > # This package allows you to set up the Linux console, change the font, > > > # resize text mode virtual consoles and remap the keyboard. > > > # . > > > # You will probably want to install a set of data files, such as the one > > > # in the “console-data” package. > > > > > > For a start there's no such package as "console-data" (does it mean > > > console-setup-linux?) > > > > there is https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=console-data > > > > but i am equally puzzled by what any of these three packages (kbd, > > console-data, console-setup) actually do, or which i really need. I find > > the desciptions of all unclear. > > > > The installer leaves you with kbd (which recommends console-setup | > > console-data) but i've never known how to find out why. > > > Let's check what are used on Debian. > > kbd and keyboard-configuration and console-setup are introduced around 2010 > and > widely used since. > * https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=kbd > * https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=console-setup > console-data and console-common usage are not used for new default > installations > since 2010. > * https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=console-data > * https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=console-common > > Let's use aptitude to see kbd package. > > --- > i A --\ kbd > > 2.3.0-3 2.3.0-3 > Description: Linux console font and keytable utilities > This package allows you to set up the Linux console, change the font, > resize text > mode virtual consoles and remap the keyboard. > > You will probably want to install a set of data files, such as the one in > the > “console-data” package. > ... > --\ Recommends (1) > --\ console-setup | console-data > p console-data 2:1.12-8 > i A console-setup 1.205 > --\ Conflicts (1) > --- console-utilities > --- Package names provided by kbd (1) > --- Packages which depend on kbd (14) > --\ Versions of kbd (1) > i A 2.3.0-3 > --- > > kbd installs console-setup as the primary candidate as recommend and skips to > install > console-date. But its description still carry situation when initial > introduction of > kbd package happened. It should now say “console-setup” instead of > “console-data” to > reduce confusion. > > I don't know why old console-data and console-common is still in archive. I > don't > use it any more. But maybe for some special system, they still need to > configure as > it was done before 2010. If it works, Debian doesn't drop packages. So > there are > old packages in archives which normal people don't need to use.
For those who like logs and wonder why they have console-setup on their systems: Oct 30 15:49:24 apt-install: Queueing package console-setup for later installation Oct 30 15:51:44 in-target: console-setup-linux kbd xkb-data Oct 30 15:51:44 in-target: console-setup console-setup-linux kbd xkb-data Oct 30 15:51:44 in-target: Get:2 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 11.1.0 _Bullseye_ - Official i386 NETINST 20211009-10:11] b ullseye/main i386 console-setup-linux all 1.205 [1,872 kB] Oct 30 15:51:44 in-target: Get:4 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 11.1.0 _Bullseye_ - Official i386 NETINST 20211009-10:11] b ullseye/main i386 console-setup all 1.205 [100 kB] Oct 30 15:51:47 in-target: Selecting previously unselected package console-setup-linux.^M Oct 30 15:51:47 in-target: Preparing to unpack .../console-setup-linux_1.205_all.deb ...^M Oct 30 15:51:47 in-target: Unpacking console-setup-linux (1.205) ...^M Oct 30 15:51:49 in-target: Selecting previously unselected package console-setup.^M Oct 30 15:51:49 in-target: Preparing to unpack .../console-setup_1.205_all.deb ...^M Oct 30 15:51:49 in-target: Unpacking console-setup (1.205) ...^M Oct 30 15:51:49 in-target: Setting up console-setup-linux (1.205) ...^M Oct 30 15:51:51 in-target: Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/console-setup.service → /lib/sy stemd/system/console-setup.service.^M Oct 30 15:51:52 in-target: Setting up console-setup (1.205) ...^M console-setup doesn't get on a system via the base system or standard system utilities or dependencies. It is a consquence of installing a workable console and keyboard at the start of d-i. A brilliant idea in my view. -- Brian.
