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I've been told (thank you Andrei), that the subject I just raised [0] should also be announced on debian-www, debian-doc and debian-l10n-english, so let me try to fix the initial mess. My thought was focused on the DPN, thus the choice of debian-publicity, but maybe debian-l10n-english is a better place to follow up this thread. [0] http://lists.debian.org/hu37d4$ul...@dough.gmane.org Cheers David Le 01/06/2010 14:01, Justin B Rye a écrit : > David Prévot wrote: >> I raised an issue last week-end, while the DPN was already freezed, and >> got only one person on my "side", so I reverted my changes [287]. In >> fact, I think everybody focused on the "verb" part, and my poorly chosen >> example from W3C, > > I blame the W3C tip-writer. > >> so I'll try to make myself clearer in order to >> eventually evolve in another (hopefully better) way to link stuff from >> the web-based DPN (I think that the mail edition is better since there >> are no true hyperlinks). >> >> [287]http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/publicity/dpn/en/2010/04/index.wml?r1=285&r2=287 >> >> For example (I picked a short and easy one), in the just published DPN, >> we have : >> >> "Aurélien Jarno *reported* a bit about Debian's switch from GLIBC to >> EGLIBC." >> >> I think that the hyperlink on *reported* is meaningless, and misguiding >> (why should I follow a link just called "reported", am I going to be >> reported somewhere?). > > The meaning I tend to assume is being conveyed is that such a link > will lead to a location where the communicative event in question is > archived. Links on non-informational verbs, such as "Aurélien Jarno > *lives* nearby", would be much less natural. > >> The purpose of Aurélien's report is about the *Debian's switch from >> GLIBC to EGLIBC*, or at least the *switch from GLIBC to EGLIBC*, so I >> really believe that the hyperlink should rather be on this phrase. > > That would make sense, though there's a slight semantic gap to be > bridged either way, since his report did not itself constitute a > "switch from GLIBC to EGLIBC". Other kinds of post, such as for > instance "Aurélien Jarno asked whether GLIBC should be removed > from Squeeze", would be trickier. It's also quite common for > secondary links to be contained within the material quoted. > > Incidentally, I'm assuming there's an unspoken rule that where > possible we prefer short link anchors, so that the page is a sea of > normal text containing small islands of underlined blue clickability > rather than the reverse. But none of those tips pages say anything > about this, so maybe it's just me. > >> Eventually, in some not so easy cases, I think that linking on the name >> of the "reporter" (here *Aurélien Jarno*), should be far more meaningful >> that the usual past tense verb "reported" (usually "announced"), since >> the hyperlink will link to something about this person. > > What you're implying is that in a certain web-centric sense, that > URL _is_ "Aurélien Jarno". This works well enough for blogs, but > less well for mailinglists and so on. > >> I'm well aware that the meaning of the total sentence is the best way to >> have a clue about what the hyperlink is about, but I sincerely believe >> that the hyperlink itself should better be meaningful if possible. > > Absolutely. And probably I should be asking around to see what > random strangers think instead of arguing for my own prejudices. > >> P.-S.: Alexander proposed to eventually raised this sort of discussion >> to other more general lists, I think it could be fine, but why not >> starting around here, and if we have a consensus, try to raised the >> discussion to debian-www for example. Some people answered to the >> previous thread that was crossed-linked with debian-l10n-english, maybe >> we could do it again for this one in order to gather more opinion too. > > (I've already been sucked in from d-l-e.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwFvy8ACgkQ18/WetbTC/qWbACfZsJ9J3NS+ScVSo8rORJPx476 Cb8An1y7Wn1ZHqZKfWNNg+5W2sDR9kb3 =6TQz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-doc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c05bf3d.8060...@tilapin.org