> Hello Miguel, I would have prefered to know you taking some "tapas" > in Madrid, oh welll..
A large group went on my last day in Madrid for tapas ;-) > I disagree. The fragment is not "completely wrong", > however, I read it now and find a *big* mistake. > Where I said GNOME developers > I should have said "HELIX developers" Exactly, hence the paragraph is wrong it in entirety :-) Now, even then, it was our plan all along (and I believe the FAQ on our web site mentions it), that we wanted to provide Debian packages. > I'm sorry to disagree with you, the GNOME project *does* > distribute binaries (and packages too), looking > in http://www.gnome.org/start/ will give you pointers > to packages for Caldera, RedHat and SuSE distributed > from the GNOME site (ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest). Sadly, those packages are seldome updated, and there is not an ongoing effort to keep them up to date. I tried to assemble such a team, in the gnome-packaging-list, but that group never produced binaries. >From time to time we do get contributed packages, but it is not something users can really rely on having. > The Debian packages, however, are *not* found in the GNOME ftp > site. Why aren't they included and mirrored? Because nobody did contribute them. Every binary on the site was contributed by someone. For example, recently we got mail from a TurboLinux user, and he provided us with the packages for TurboLinux. > I brought this thing first in Debian lists since I thought some > discussion should be needed first, not just by discussing the > issue of GNOME/HELIX but also whether if our package system > was not docummented enough for others to make packages for Debian. I am sorry, because many people got the wrong impression about GNOME and Helix due to the non-factual post. > My point was that maybe Debian is not getting enough attention > from GNOME and other related projects (like HELIX) and that maybe > we had a public-relations problem. This thread might not have helped too > much :) It did not hurt, as I know this is not how the Debian developer feel. I regret that you posted inacurrate information, when you had a chance to talk to me directly instead of coming up with some conspiracy theories. > you are quite popular .. I only attended the exposition to hear you speak :) I had a lot of free time :-)