On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:38:21AM +0930, Ron wrote:
> > Well, it sounds like you repeated what about a dozen people have already
> > said. The concern is an automated way to generate the depends.
Umm, any purticular reason to that compile-depends must be autogenerated --
why can't they be done manualy by the packager? (I realize that this is less
then ideal -- but having this in optionaly, manualy seems better then not
having it at all.)
> > The
> > autobuilders already use a semi-working type of this, but it isn't perfect
> > and makes assumptions that can't always be assumed.
Mind describing the method the autobuilders use (and where I can find
approprate source)?
> > I have already made a patch for dpkg-* programs to use source deps in a
> > control field, that's not the problem though.
Any reason not to put it in your next upload?
> As this has probably been thrashed about innumerable times before, yet we
> all agree that having source dependancies would be valuable, could someone
> summarise (or provide a pointer to) the problems that have been identified.
>
> I see two situations up front:
> - a need to describe the tools needed to build a package
> (eg. gcc, bison, flex, etc..)
> - and a need to describe the other source packages or librarys required
> to build a working binary.
Why do these need to be treated differently?
> as well as a way to auto-detect these dependancies, what else is required?
I've read through all of the archives that seemed appropriate, and found the
following problems that had been brought up:
1. Automatic generation of the field(s)
2. Required/Recomened/Sugueted defs (for ex, what to do with tex tools and
such that are required for only minor peices of the packages.)
3. Requiring bin-packages vs. requiring build trees from other package's
source
In general, on prior discussions, there was no conclusion on 1 and 2, but on
3 it was suguested that requiring build trees from another package was
considered buggy.
A soultion to number 1 that was tossed around included using libtricks to
get a list of files accessed, and is therefor (IIRC) obselete. (And in any
case is prohibitively slow.)
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