Sorry for the delayed reply, I've been away a few days.

Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 17 Jun 1998, Martin Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > This is the old .rc file, left behind by a dpkg artifact during the
> > > upgrade. While future versions of ae will be able to remove this file, I
> > > don't see Brian letting it into hamm, but as it is only useful in this
> > > mode during an install, everything will work fine.
> > 
> > I tried it again, as you advised, and noticed that it actually was possible
> > to edit and quit. Mind you, backspace seemed non-functional, but I notice
> > a bug has recently been filed about that. IMO that is a release critical
> > bug, if you can find a fix quickly.
> 
> Did you use X and x as declared on the help screen? These are the vi
> delete keys, and the cursor is moved left (backspace?) with the h key. All
> of this is on the help screen. If you don't see it there, there is no
> guarantee that it will do what you expect.

I did successfully edit using the standard vi keys, but the backspace works
in any vi, and it should be supported in the 'vi-mode' of ae. This is one
of the few remaining problems that are glaringly apparent when using ae in
vi-mode.

> > Sorry, I didn't know I was using the old config file. And I did read the
> > changelog, contrary what you said in your irate private message to me,
> > and it never said the conffile had been moved:
> > 
> Guilty on both counts. Sorry for the irateness of my last posting. I was
> just tired of hearing all the false (or historical, depending on your
> point of view) information being spread about an editor that I have worked
> hard to bring to the table in a form that can be used in the broadest
> context. Yes ae had a bad run of development getting used to slang, but
> that is history, so lets keep to the facts. On top of all that, the
> discussion has continued to cover other editors, as though they were
> "real" alternatives in this case.

I'm trying to provide constructive criticism, that can help improve ae.
I realize you've faced some rather harsh criticism in the past, however
I think this was due to the particularly annoying nature of some of the
bugs that have now been fixed. (eg not being able to quit in vi-mode)

> The part of the changelog that should have been in that release was
> missing through my error as well. (how do you fix bugs in a changelog?)

Add them in a subsequent version, with an explanatory note as to which
version they were fixed in.

> My choices are to junk the whole concept, and force all you with vi
> programmed fingers to use ae instead, or to continue with the poor
> functionality emulation I have, in hopes that someone will figure out how
> to "improve" it.

I'm appreciative of all that has been done, and I only have 3 requests for
future releases:

1) Fix backspace to act as expected when editing text.
2) Fix displaying default option at command prompts, eg

   File not saved.  Quit (y/n) ? n^H

   after typing :q

3) Remove old /etc/ae2vi.rc file if it exists, to avoid confusion.

        Martin.


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