On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:26:13AM +0000, Helen Faulkner wrote: > Based on comments made to me by a number of women who are interested in > contributing more to Debian, the level of agressiveness on some of the > mailing lists and IRC channels is a problem. It is preventing people > (women and men, no doubt) from getting involved, because they don't want > to have to deal with that behaviour, should it be directed towards them.
Indeed. > I often find myself explaining to people how they can avoid attracting > the attention of those who are likely to be unpleasant to deal with, and > also repeatedly emphasising the fact that, despite some appearances, > there really are many very pleasant and supportive people involved in > Debian. It's a pity that such explanations are actually required. Sadly, those helpful people usually don't make up the reputation of Debian in public. The aggressive DDs do this, IMHO. > I do not believe that being thick-skinned enough to cope with people who > are very agressive or insulting should be a requirement for involvement > in Debian. Sadly, it seems to me that this is effectively the case. > Shouldn't we be more interested in someone's technical skills, and their > ability to work well with others? I think, the problem is not with thin-skinned people but with those thick-skinned one, that don't care about the thinner-skinned people. The argument of being thick-skinned is IMHO just a bad excuse to be more aggressive to others. It's just too simple to state that the other person is too thin-skinned when others being aggressive to them. As a result, people start to believe they have to get aggressive to others in order to get heared. I made that experience myself. Wasn't there a thread of being more polite lately? I wish more women would join Debian and the lists. My experience is that usually there's not that much aggressiveness when there are women around. -- Ciao... // Ingo \X/ Please note that year 2004 has come to an end and the year 2005 is now - even in my mail address! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]