On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 02:16:36PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> In my mind, the most important question is if Debian is doing things to move 
> us towards a world that allows us to run fully free systems, including fully 
> free (as in freedom) hardware and fully free firmware.
> 

Maybe try a Beaglebone Black - no extra firmware needed. Oh, too small /
not enough features - too bad.

idealism great - but you *currently* have the chance to install Debian
on amd64 without finally installing non-free firmware / non-free softwware.

All of this was fairly well explained when the GR on non-free firmware
passed. If you _really_ _really_ want to, then it's entirely open to you
to restart creating a fully free iso from Debian sources but you will need
to find someone other than the current team to test it for you in all
likelihood.

> Everyone agrees that we currently do not live in that world.  So, currently, 
> using a computer requires some amount of compromise.
> 

No, you *can* find something that will meet FSF guidelines - but the
compromise is only in using something old / hand modified.

> Some people appear to be of the opinion that it is impossible to ever get to 
> that perfect world, so we shouldn’t even try.
> 
> My opinion is that we can get there, but that, even in the best case 
> scenario, 
> it will take a long time.  Perhaps longer than my lifespan.  However, I would 
> like Debian to be on the cutting edge of doing what is currently possible to 
> run a fully free system.  If enough people care about this issue, we can 
> slowly make small improvements each year.
> 
Do you think that the rest of us don't care / aren't attempting to make
year on year improvements?

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy
([email protected])

> -- 
> Soren Stoutner
> [email protected]


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