On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 02:52:26PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: [cc trimmed] > Hi, > > I guess I am forced to quote the full message and point out the word > trickery going on here: > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 03:04, Ian Jackson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm going to address onlhy a few of the most egregious errors. > > > > Otto Kekäläinen writes ("Re: Include git commit id and git tree id in > > *.changes files when uploading?"): > > > [Nikolaus Rath] > > > > [Otto Kekäläinen] > > > > > Debian is actually one of the few distros that is attempting to have > > > > > workflows based on importing upstream git repos. Debian currently has > > > > > two competing popular systems for doing this: git-buildpackage and > > > > > dgit. > > > > > > > > This statement reveals, even for a casual observer like me, such a > > > > fundamental misunderstanding that, in my opinion, it disqualifies you > > > > from this discussion. > > > > tl;dr: Nikolaus is right and Otto is wrong. > > > > dgit is not principally a competitor to git-buildpackage. Indeed dgit > > has git-buildpackage as a dependency! It even has a --gbp mode! > > Anyone reading this casually please note the use of "not _principally_ > a competitor" instead of just "not a competitor". The sentence is true > only by sneaking in the word _principally_, at which point it is no > longer a response to what I wrote but an intentionally twisted version > of it. > > Anyone who does Debian packaging knows that when you choose what > workflow to use and where to keep the packaging git history, you will > have to decide if you want to use plain git-buildpackage, layered > gbp+dgit, or some of the other dgit workflows such as > dgit-maint-debrebase, which makes it possible (with some tradeoffs) to > use plain `git rebase` to update patches instead of quilt or `gbp pq` > after importing a new upstream version.
At the risk of pointing out the obvious here, tools that complement each other and that understand each other's behavior and data structures (at least in one direction) can hardly be called "competitors". G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] PGP key: https://www.ringlet.net/roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint 2EE7 A7A5 17FC 124C F115 C354 651E EFB0 2527 DF13
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