Hi, On 14/05/25 at 13:50 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 08:48:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 05/05/25 at 22:14 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > In some cases, the bug is already known, because debian/rules > > > has --max-parallel=1. Example: The alpine package. > > > > > > (I wonder how much feasible would be to skip those packages) > > > > The alpine package is indeed a good example of a package that makes > > extensive use of the sequentiality of 'make', and that is going to be > > hard to adjust to switch to parallel building or arbitrary orders. > > > > However I still think that there's value in filing bugs for such > > packages, because --shuffle=reverse makes it much easier to debug such > > issues: instead of trying a parallel build and getting a subtlely > > different race conditions at each run, you get a reproducible ordering > > that exhibits one issue that you can debug, and then move on to the next > > issue. > > > > Also it's not trivial to distinguish between packages that do not build > > in parallel on purpose, vs those that just happen not to build in > > parallel (yet). > > What is a maintainer supposed to do when the package already does > "dh --no-parallel" and the upstream Makefiles are basically unfixable? > Just close the bug?
Or mark it wontfix? > Strip "--shuffle" in debian/rules? > > How many of the packages that break with "make --shuffle" are currently > doing parallel building? Grepping for the 'Waiting for unfinished jobs ...' message and combining this with bugs filed, I find 74 packages that fail with --shuffle=reverse, and 7 that fail with --shuffle=random and not --shuffle=reverse. (listed below) > I am asking since these might be RC bugs for trixie. If you are implying that I'm going to push for RC severity for those bugs: no, I'm not planning to, unless the failures are reproducible without --shuffle. - Lucas apertium-dan-nor #1105259 apertium-spa-cat #1105257 apngasm #1105275 apngopt #1105238 asciijump #1105255 blahtexml #1105265 bloboats #1105242 blockout2 #1105272 boinctui #1105294 cataclysm-dda #1105263 cbp2make #1105233 clhep #1105293 connman #1105298 consensuscore #1105296 console-common #1105247 darknet #1105249 ddd #1105232 ddir #1105261 docbook-to-man #1105271 efivar #1105354 euslisp #1105329 fact++ TODO foo2zjs #1105322 fossil #1105310 gcl27 #1105309 genometools #1105339 gmrender-resurrect #1105332 grass #1105330 grokevt #1105325 guetzli #1105411 iraf #1105412 irrlicht #1105374 isl #1105398 iverilog #1105401 kylin-burner #1105394 ldns #1105380 le #1105371 libf2c2 #1105484 libreoffice #1105453 libsdl2 #1105444 lmod #1105445 ltrsift #1105470 mailfilter #1105490 multimon #1105488 muscle #1105460 nanovg #1105510 neomutt #1105534 octave-ltfat #1105525 openafs #1105449 peg #1105570 phalanx #1105564 pixelize #1105684 proftpd-dfsg #1105645 qemu #1105631 qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles #1105679 qtdeclarative-opensource-src #1105556 raysession #1105586 retroarch #1105559 rootskel-gtk #1105706 simavr #1105549 simulide #1105663 snap7 #1105572 sssd #1105624 sugar-toolkit-gtk3 #1105558 swirc #1105609 texworks-manual #1105622 tk-table #1105585 tstools #1105708 uc-echo #1105670 umtp-responder #1105676 vflib3 #1105694 xelb #1105669 yaha #1105561 z80dasm #1105573 bedtools #1105730 carbon-c-relay #1105726 cssc #1105732 freeradius #1105717 mingw-w64 #1105725 open-vm-tools #1105731 uftrace #1105724
