> On 12 Mar 2025, at 13:02, Marco d'Itri <m...@linux.it> wrote:
> 
> On Mar 12, Hakan Bayındır <ha...@bayindir.org> wrote:
> 
>> In first blush, I don’t think shaders should be considered firmware. They 
>> are not used to enable the hardware,
> I am not taking a position about shaders at this point, but I will note that 
> this has never been the definition of firmwares.
> Firmwares are software which runs outside of the OS on a different CPU.

You’re right, but many if not all firmware runs all the time the unit is 
powered on. Shaders are transient software which run on the GPU for a limited 
time, e.g. when you’re encoding a video.

If we think that a shader is a firmware, any software running on the second 
socket on a system is also a firmware, since the program is running on a 
different CPU w.r.t. to Kernel.

> 
> -- 
> ciao,
> Marco

Cheers,

H.

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