Hi, first - thanks a lot for working on postfix packaging, it really needs some love.
On 12/16/24 15:51, Michael Tokarev wrote: > What do you think about this aspect of postfix on debian? my opinion in short: I would get rid of the chrooted complexity, it's not worth it and introduces way more problems that it could solve/more extra work that it could ever save. Time and effort are better spend to harden postfix elsewhere where it makes actually a difference. smtpd daemons are a rare thing on the majority of users systems (even if popcon reports a whopping 12% install base for postfix), so I mainly see two scenarios for running postfix: a) single power-user system (notebook/desktop) which has a local MTA to send their own mail out to a proper mail server somewhere on the internet b) running a proper mail server on the internet I do both and would welcome non-chrooted by default for both scenarios in order to have a nicer, simpler and better integrated experience with the rest of the system with less special casing. postfix would e.g. way more profit from with namespace, capability and process restrictions set (via systemd units?). Regarding security concerns, imho: For a) not really much of a problem because one sends his/her own stuff out without accepting mail from the outside, so relatively small chance of malicious mails that could trigger some postfix bug to compromise the system. For b), the real abuse/danger of the system isn't a malicious mail to take out/over postfix, but the bazillion non-malicious-yet-unwanted mails aka spam. Regards, Daniel