On 17302 March 1977, Thomas Goirand wrote:

Using HA myself, that thing and all around it is changing faster than
anything else I ever saw. One basically finished updating ones install
and it goes again "Update available".
That's part of my motivation for having HA in Debian: I hate that it wants to update too fast: faster than I can cope with, demanding too much of my time. I do not really care having the latest shiny last thing, I want something that works, that is reliable, and that I don't have to maintain too much.

It's a fast moving target.
With an impressive rate of both, new features, and fixes.

Also, what really is there in the updates? Maybe one doesn't care about them 99% of the time. That driver foo for the device bar that you don't even use, do we really need to update it? I hope the core of Home Assistant itself doesn't move *THAT* fast. It's hard to tell without inspecting all pieces of the puzzle.

Oh, for sure, if there are updates, you will get a load of "NEW VERSION"
bugs. *Someone* somewhere always needs *this* one new feature. :)

Combined with upstreams focus on their HassOS thing (and yes, that *is*
damn easy and low-effort to use!)
[...]
This is clearly what I would like to stop doing. I currently have to, because a few times, the automated upgrades of Home Assistant broke badly on me. I'm sure it's going to happen again: it also happened to some of my friends.

Actually it is the most stable thing I have here. And yes, I regularly
update that thing. Never had any huge problem. Smaller ones, easily
rolled back.

Also, for OpenStack, I've been mostly alone. We're currently 5 enthusiastic DDs in the Home Assistant team. It's possible even more will join us. I don't think I'm even going to be the main driver behind this packaging, Edward seems very motivated, and he's done a lot already.

Yah, saw him already.

Anyways, that's the beginning of an adventure. Where this will lead us, I'm not sure yet... For sure, looking at how, and even more importantly what things get updated by upstream will be interesting, and this will tell us if it's possible to have this in Debian Stable. Maybe the only solution will be having most drivers in Debian Stable (the huge list of 680+ python modules we're packaging), and have HA only in a non-official backport repo. IMO this would already be a great achievement.

Curious where you all will end up. Good luck!

--
bye, Joerg

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