Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-05-19 21:32:36) > > > My concern about Gitlab is not its *additions* to existing services, but > > > its *duplications* of core services already in Debian. > > > > I agree, that's the key problem. > > I agree that duplication is bad - but I disagree that use of version > control duplicates the use of the Debian archive for source code > storage, or that use of GitLab for code reviews would duplicate > Debbugs. > > > > ...instead of lumping all those discussions into a discussion of ease of > > > user interface for a single catch-all code forge that maybe make all those > > > other complications go away by affecting all those questions and that way > > > implicitly provides *some* answer to them all. > > > > Also, there is a difference between ease of use and intuitivity. GitLab > > does not provide any tools that really make packaging easier. It is > > initially more accessible to non-maintainers, because of familiarity, > > but actual work happens outside of it. > > Would you be kind and try to understand the opposing viewpoint by > trying it for one day? > > You could go to > https://salsa.debian.org/debbugs-team/debbugs/-/merge_requests/19 and > conduct a code review? > > You might discover that GitLab is useful and is not duplicating > Debbugs or anything else in Debian - it is currently the only platform > to conduct code reviews on in a way that has automatic testing and > comment-response-resolved -tracking. Doing code reviews patches > attached in email does not have that. > > If you try it out, and still think Salsa is bad for Debian, then I am > more willing to accept your stanze.
But it *is* duplicating Debbugs: None of your valuable contributions posted as part of your code review appears on Debbugs. The developers of FreedomBox (which is a Debian Pure Blend, i.e. a project fully within Debian) has embraced Salsa, and when I asked about an issue with network instability for certain hardware, I was told that it was in the issue tracker - which meant it was missing from Debbugs while actively discussed in Salsa. Salsa is *great* if you fully embrace it. Salsa is not good if you want single features without fully embracing it. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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