Am Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 12:09:20AM +0000 schrieb Holger Levsen: > > it's rather easy to do too, though maybe there should be something in > src:devscripts > implementing something along these lines:
Sure its easy and may be everybody (including me) has written some local scripts. The fact that it is easy is no good reason to force a lot of developers to work on the symptoms, that binary name changes have to pass NEW. IMHO Debian would be an easier place if this would not be the case. To give some example: bamtools has an RC bug #1015861 which is now pending for five months due to passing NEW. And yes, I have pinged on IRC about this - no idea what the proper pinging frequency might be. In nearly all cases it worked nicely for me by fast processing by ftpmaster (and I again use this chance to thank the ftpmaster team for this.) On the other hand I'd love to pull some work from their shoulders and I keep on thinking that binary name changes force passing NEW is a burden for them that can be removed. In a previous thread about this Scott Kitterman gave some explanation[1] which I summarize here (please read full posting of Scott[1] to get the whole arguments - may be the summary is to short): 1. Second pair of eyeballs verifying that SONAME bump has not broken anything. 2. New binary package "steals" binary from another source. 3. Overall sense of the rename. It's not just let's do extra copyright/license checks. (which was the only argument I have heard before - AT) In his mail Scott explicitly said: Speaking only for myself, not the FTP Team. I admit I like the technical arguments given by Scott. However, to my perception the issues named above might be uncovered by automated tools we are just using and would raise according bug reports. In my (possibly naive) eyes the issue is caused by a "feature" in the ftpmaster scripts and could be solved by enhancing those scripts - provided that we as a community decide that the migration via NEW is not really needed in case of binary name changes. So should we vote about this (and if yes is there any volunteer to implement this change.) Kind regards Andreas. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/01/msg00231.html -- http://fam-tille.de