Le jeu. 26 mai 2022 à 21:08, Simon McVittie <s...@debian.org> a écrit :

> On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 17:21:27 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Here, this could be
> >
> >   Recommends: pipewire | pulseaudio
>
> Those are not interchangeable.
>
> pipewire started as a multiplexer for video streams, and only later
> gained audio capabilities. The reason most people with pipewire will
> have it installed is that it's necessary when doing screen-sharing or
> screencasting from a Wayland environment like GNOME.
>
> If you're *also* using pipewire as an audio multiplexing server, which
> is not the default for any installation of Debian yet (but might be in
> future), then you will also need pipewire-pulse, which has two purposes:
>
> * it configures the pipewire service to open the audio device;
> * it provides a separate PulseAudio-compatible server which acts as a
>   wire-protocol-compatible replacement for pulseaudio
>
> Without pipewire-pulse, pipewire is only a video multiplexer, not an
> audio multiplexer.
>
> pipewire is actually more like a metapackage, which pulls in the packages
> that are needed to have Pipewire actually work for a particular library
> architecture (libpipewire-0.3-0 cannot pull in libpipewire-0.3-modules
> itself, because that would be a circular dependency), together with the
> pipewire service from the primary architecture (pipewire-bin).
>
> > Indeed, for a remote VM, it is silly to recommend a sound server,
> > just because a library appears in the chain of dependencies:
> >
> > joooj:~> apt-get install -s atril | grep '^Inst pipewire'
>
> It looks like that's happening because atril depends on WebKitGTK, a
> relatively complete web browser engine, which uses xdg-desktop-portal
> to invoke per-user services across a sandbox boundary (so that it can
> provide the web APIs people expect from it, without having arbitrary
> websites able to access your webcam without your permission).
>
> xdg-desktop-portal depends on pipewire because one of the services it
> provides is access to webcams, and another is screen-sharing and
> screencasting. Both of those use the Pipewire video protocol to get the
> actual frames across the sandbox boundary.
>
> Maybe Atril never actually uses WebKitGTK to access arbitrary websites,
> but WebKitGTK is a fully-featured web browser engine, so it has to
> be prepared to do anything that an arbitrary website expects to work,
> and that includes (for example) the Jitsi web frontend.
>
> > Ditto for the gnucash accounting software
>
> Same dependency here: it depends on WebKitGTK.
>


That's an incredibly interesting explanation. Should be part of a wiki
somewhere !

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