On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:35:01AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The point is to make things easier for our users. Right now, we're doing > that for you but not for the users who don't care whether firmware is > non-free. I think the idea is that we should consider making things > easier for both groups of users. There's no reason to make things worse > for you and others who want the fully free installer in the process.
I wonder if a compromise would be to make an install CD/DVD which contains the non-free packages, but which gives the user the option to abstain from using said non-free packages --- it can explain that the non-free packages may be needed for some hardware, but why people who are committed to Free Software might prefer loss of functionality to using non-free software. We might still need to continue to ship a CD/DVD which completely omits the non-free software, since for some people they might object to having any non-free bits on their install media, regardless of whether or not they are used. But having a non-free installer where the use of non-free packages is optional, perhaps that might be a sufficient compromise that we could make that installer more easily findable, instead of leaving it in a "locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.'". After all, for people who very on the "non-free is evil and must be avoided at all costs" spectrum, this installer would help them get their message out --- and after providing the pro-Free-Software-at-all costs message to users that might oherwise might not get it (remember, these are people who had previously been using Windows 10), we trust users to choose how they come down on the question. Just a thought.... - Ted