Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin (2020-07-12 09:34:32) > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 02:02:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Difficult when network-manager depends (not recommends) wpa-supplicant: > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/919619 > > > That Depends is not a problem. > > > > Yes a problem, but not a unsurmountable one: You can... > > > > a) pollute your Debian system using equivs, or > > > > b) install the dependency but then disable the daemon > You still need manual action to use iwd, so disabling wpa-supplicant is > just another command.
Yes, iwd requires configuration. We should _minimize_ the need for configuration: iwd needing configuration of NetworkManager is no reason to _depend_ on wpa-supplicant. Network-Manager needing wpa-supplicant in _most_ situations is a reason to _recommend_ it not a reason to _depend_ on it, per Debian Policy! Current minimal fresh installation with network-manager and iwd: 1) apt install network-manager iwd 2) Configure Network-Manager to use iwd 3) Stop wpa-supplicant 4) Disable wpa-supplicant 5) Restart iwd 6) Restart network-manager This would be simpler if network-manager followed Debian Policy in acknowledging that wpa-supplicant is not *ALWAYS* needed, by recommending not depending on it: 1) apt install network-manager iwd wpa-supplicant- 2) Configure Network-Manager to use iwd 3) Restart network-manager It could be even simpler by providing a package with a config snippet for network-manager. It *cannot* be much simpler with a helper pacakge while network-manager depends on wpa-supplicant, because such helper package would then need to Provide: wpa-supplicant which is not Policy compliant, and such package could therefore not be part of Debian. Using equivs could not be part of Debian. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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