On 3/17/20 8:34 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ansgar dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:49:49AM +0100]: >> And Debian ships vim-tiny, not vim, as part of the minimal >> installation. That the same source package also builds other versions >> doesn't really matter for vim-tiny. >> >> The only problem you mentioned was vim-tiny (arch: any) depending on >> vim-common (arch: all) and these sometimes getting out of sync on Debian >> Ports. I don't think that is a good reason to switch editors and there >> are other ways to work around that problem. > > Agree.
The vim maintainer himself would like to get rid of the vim-tiny package and I'm not sure there is a compelling argument that you have to use a particular vi implementation in a minimal environment. I wouldn't have a problem with vim if the package didn't fail its testsuite that often. While the last upload has helped a little, it's still FTBFS on five architectures [1], three of them in Debian Ports meaning I won't be able to build usable d-i images and several users have asked me for updated images already. >> But if we really wanted a minimal editor: `ed` is still there with an >> Installed-Size: 116 kB and no external dependencies besides libc6. It >> also works without fancy terminal features. > > Well, yes. But while mostly everybody who reads this will be > moderately proficient with the basic subset of vi, I don't know > anybody who'd know how to drive ed (I have done it, but I surely don't > remember how to). It's not about the size of the editor package but more about using an editor which causes less build issues. >> Or have debootstrap not install any editor. But if I remember correctly >> that idea wasn't popular. > > I agree with those that would oppose. Having an editor handy is core > to be able to get a Unix system out of many unexpected > situations. Having an Unix system without an editor is IMO having a > broken system. Could make sense for embedded targets... but nothing else. I'm not arguing that, I just want to solve this particular problem. Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
