Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 17:12 Uhr schrieb Simon Richter <s...@debian.org>:
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>
> > > There are still a large number of
> > > Debian users opting away from using systemd (and still use Debian, not
> > > derivatives). And what about non-linux systems?
>
> > This is not true: adoption of systemd in buster is larger than 99%.
> > Other systems will have different defaults.
>
> Adoption of systemd on machines with popcon installed and active, which are
> largely desktop and laptop installations, i.e. those cases where systemd
> provides a tangible benefit.
>
> Popcon is useful for determining what goes on the first installation DVD,
> but neither popcon nor mirror download statistics can measure the impact a
> particular package has.
>
> I'd expect servers and embedded systems to be vastly underrepresented in
> both of these statistics, but that doesn't mean these use cases are in any
> way uninteresting to the project.
Those are also the usecases where defaults matter the least though. We
can certainly expect administrators of a server to be able to `apt
install rsyslog` if they want to use it. On embedded systems I
personally actually found the systemd journal to be very nice to use,
but embedded systems are the most customized Debian installations out
there, so we can't choose a default that works for all of them anyway.
>From personal experience, all that's needed to switch to the journal
for an admin is to re-learn a couple of commands and be open to a bit
of change. I so far found nothing that I could do with rsyslog to be
impossible with the journal.
Cheers,
Matthias
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