On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst <wou...@debian.org> writes: > > Wouter> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:45:47PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/ > > Wouter> > https://grep.be/blog/en/computer/cluebat/Systemd__Devuan__and_Debian/ > > Wouter> -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're > Wouter> happy > > Hi. We've received a lot of feedback about the negative costs of long > threads here.
Yes. [...] > But as someone charged with helping try to facilitate discussions within > the project, I think this particular set of related threads have reached > the point of diminishing returns on debian-devel for now. > If there's some last message you absolutely have to send, get that *one > last message* out of your system. > But let's be almost done, out of respect for everyone who has had this > discussion before and out of the many people who have talked about the > costs of relatively long threads like this. I wasn't going to reply to this at first, but... I'm not sure if you replying to my particular email has any significance. But if it does, I think that's pretty terribly bad of you. I replied exactly twice to this whole thread: once to ask you to *not* prepare a GR proposal in private, *precicely because* announcing you're going to propose a GR but not actually (yet) doing so has in the past led to long and very much not productive threads about the general subject the almost-proposed GR is about. You declined, for reasons that I didn't agree with (but didn't feel strongly enough about to argue to death). A second reply was the above one, to point out a particularly bad style of "argument", of pointing to a URL that kindof okayishly defends the way one of our competing distributions works, but doesn't (at least in my opinion) match up with Debian's traditions very well. I happen to believe that using a bad style of argument in an already-long thread is not very productive, and I wanted to point that out in a short and simple way. So now that you've seen that your actions have caused a huge and inproductive thread, rather than owning up to that and just doing the right thing, you're pointing fingers and telling *me* that I'm making a bad situation worse? Srsly. Yes, the DPL is supposed to "lead discussion", but no, you do *not* do that by telling people to shut up when they're just reacting to *your* mistakes. Thanks for considering. -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard
