Tl;DR: We're slowing down the git discussions and we all know that I owe the project a summary there. Even I found that discussion really long and it's taking a while to read it all for the second time.
Long form: First, we're all agreed that the last round of Git discussions was a bit much to take in. I'm taking my time putting together a summary and we will have a chance to see at least my take on where we got. It's possible some issues in that thread may not come to consensus. Holger pointed out that we need to avoid running things too fast. Several people agreed. I agree for many reasons including that I'm not even finding the time to act on my original time line. So, I'm going to slow down the Git discussions a bit and the goal for October is to produce a summary for the last round. ---------------------------------------- Some people pointed out that in these discussions we're only seeing participation from the people who care enough to find the time to participate. And that even given summaries, you get more influence if you read the full discussion. Several people have said that they prioritize packaging and other things over participating in these discussions. We do a number of things to try and include interested parties. We announce things on d-d-a, we hold discussions on the right forum. We seriously consider requests to pace things and give people enough time to contribute. But ultimately, there's a presumption that we're willing to trust the people who put in the energy on a given topic to make a decision. If they get it wrong, people can respond to the summaries and typically that will come out. At the end of the day 6 developers who believe we really got things wrong can bring an issue to a GR. And that's OK. Votes don't have to be emotionally draining. If the project is unwilling to trust people who have the energy to do the work, then the work won't get done. Because if we wait for everyone who is affected to chime in, it'll never happen. ---------------------------------------- People gave some feedback for better handling bits mails.. I really appreciate the feedback. Some of it I'm already doing. The rest I will consider. I've also received positive feedback (mostly in private) talking about things people like about my bits mail. I'll work to make them easier to skim while preserving aspects that people have indicated they like. ---------------------------------------- We have yet another thread about whether our lives would be better with web forum technology. It's ongoing. --Sam
