>>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter <j...@debian.org> writes:
Jonathan> I try to follow debian-devel really closely, and mostly Jonathan> manage to succeed, but this was probably the toughest Jonathan> topics for me to follow, there's lots of repetition, Jonathan> me-toos, posts that don't really address either the issue Jonathan> at hand and overall, it just feels like I have to Jonathan> fine-comb it for information and my concentration span Jonathan> just can't handle it. This is close enough to repeating myself that I won't do some more than this last time, but several people have talked about the role of the summary in the process. It's fine if you disagree that the summaries are sufficient, but I'd really appreciate it if you would acknowledge what we've said rather than just ignoring it. I absolutely agree especially this last thread has been a lot to follow. Even I haven't followed it completely enough to produce a summary yet. I agree with you that some cultural changes could make this last round better. We're all learning together. But my job as facilitator is to follow everything and produce a summary. Your job is to follow what you choose to follow and to see if my summary seems reasonable given how much you follow. If my summary doesn't seem reasonable in an area, it's worth focusing some energy there. That energy can include letting people know that the summary might not be right and then having people read the relevant part of the discussion. You do need to follow the parts of the discussion you most care about enough to understand and think about arguments others are making so that people aren't talking past each other. But it's OK if you don't follow everything. --Sam