On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:10:21PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 2017-10-02 at 06:57 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:50:37AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > On Mon, 2017-10-02 at 06:27 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:03:18AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > > > > This is a fair point, but I think the perfect is the enemy of > > > > > the good. > > > > > > > > > > I agree that moving badblocks, lsattr and chattr to another > > > > > package or inside src:util-linux is something worth to consider. > > > > > Yet, it feels like a secondary thought to me. It is not something > > > > > I will drive. > > > > > > > > It seems far easier to move them before explicitly dependencies are > > > > added, rather than after, no? > > > > > > Perhaps `Provides: ` would be an appropriate stop-gap? > > > > I'm honestly not sure what you're suggesting would provide what. > > The e2fsprogs package could "Provides: lsattr", then users can > "Depends: lsattr" instead of "Depends: e2fsprogs". > > At a later date if/when lsattr is split out into its own package then > the dependencies do not need updating a second time.
Doing such changes twice would be a huge waste of time. As it's not such a time-pressing issue, why won't we do it right from the start? But, we're discussing changes to e2fsprogs behind its maintainer's back. I believe he reads debian-devel, but, being nowhere like a frequent poster, apparently doesn't watch new threads immediately as they appear (and this one started as a response to a 2011 post). Ted: could you please chime in? In case you unsubscribed d-devel, it starts at https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/09/msg00449.html TL;DR: Helmut wants to make e2fsprogs non-essential, he has a plan to make dependencies explicit, but one identified issue is that lsattr, chattr, and less importantly badblocks, filefrag are useful on filesystems other than ext*, thus it might be good to have them moved out of e2fsprogs. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ We domesticated dogs 36000 years ago; together we chased ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ animals, hung out and licked or scratched our private parts. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Cats domesticated us 9500 years ago, and immediately we got ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ agriculture, towns then cities. -- whitroth on /.
